Isnt this suppose to be a PHONE

tapiwa katiyo wrote:
When u post something like that u are gonna get a lot of cry babies telling you to shut up. Frankly im tired of those people...all they do is whine when someone has a complaint...its like their kissing Apples a55.

I'm sorry.. I believe you got a lil' mixed up! Let me help you... I think what you really meant was that the cry babies are the ones that come to these forums to whine about what they "THINK" Apple "forgot" to add on our precious iPhones. Apple doesn't forget...they just simply "CHOOSE"..! If they chose not to add the following, then that's exactly what they intended to do. If you're not "happy" or as you like to say "kiss Apples Cadunk cadunk" then return the phone and enjoy the rest of your life "cutting and pasting"! Oh and before I forget... Why don't you use whatever PDA your lil' hearts desire and put your "search" function to use and find a "DIFFERENT" forum to complain to!

Good day!

Tapi Tapi Tapi, I always enjoy your fresh intake on things and peoples perspectives. However this is a help board, and Im not sure but people who have come in here and for there first post titles the topic " I thought this was a cell phone" and had not one, but absolutely NO questions about functions or how to do something, is considered by me a nuisance, and should be removed from the board automatically. But hey we all have opinions, and I think our " cry baby" " whiner" responses such as .. oh let me see " if you don't like it return it" are well within our rights as active posters on this board. And if you do not like it or anyone else does not like it , write our names down and do not read our posts. Because they will be the same for every complaining Apple and ATT hater that comes in here. Got a legitimate question ask and you will get an educated answer.
But please no more ringtone or volume crap. That is what is old.

tedy814 wrote:
I just got the iPhone and alot of really cool features. But isn't it suppose to be a PHONE? So why are features not available as with other cell phones.

1. Can't get ringtones I would like
2. Volume is way to low to hear it ring, even at highest setting. Appears this is a real issue with alot of users
3. Receive a call!!! No reminder alert if you were not near your phone. Other cell phones will "beep" or something if you miss a call or miss a message, etc.
4. Not so important, but the World Clock for Denver, Co is not correct. Is is using Central time and Denver in on Mountain Time. If you go to the web for World Clock, Denver is correct. What is Apple doing to settings?
4.

Burp... Next time R E S E A R C H before you lay down some serious cash. Like maybe cnet.com or something...

Shish...

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Microsoft trolling down the highway...

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Well, to respond in a non-snotty way.... 😉

1. I think Apple is working on this, and will do it when they can.

2. There have been volume complaints of epic status here, I would use the vib+ring feature for now - again Apple had to make the June launch date, and will no doubt add features as they can. Marimba and the other rings blare loud enough to shake your bones in a quiet environment. But with some ambient noise, they can become hard to hear.

3. That is something I think you should post to the suggestions area, if it is important to you and others. Apple does have a good record of listening to their users.

4. Odd, it could be a software glitch - have you tried to reset or a full restore? If so, I would make a call to Apple, or a trip to an Apple store if one is close to you.

I hope the snooty, snotty and boorish responses to your post doesn't sour your idea of what these boards are.

You will find a few who post here - especially who have Apple hardware in their sigs - who will resist and put down a claim of any product with an Apple logo is not from the Heavens itself. But the majority are neither snotty, or will look down their noses at you.

I have found many helpful and precise answers to questions here.

What makes you think that Apple is incapable of "forgetting" something and just chooses to exclude a feature? Do you base this on the fact that they are a great technology company with a wonderful operating system that has a whopping 5% of the market in computers? This is their first attempt at a phone. It is a wonderful device. However it is missing some of the most basic features that other phones in it's general catagory have. In addition, things like the volume issue (no matter how great you think Apple is)are just plainly inexcuseable.

poor guy he didnt have a chance

You answer your own question Teddy, this is just a phone. Everything else is gravy. Are you gonna worry about ringtones,music, and world clocks while you are laying in a ditch with a broken leg hoping you can contact help? Just make sure you have your phone with you :O)

What makes you think that Apple is incapable of "forgetting" something and just chooses to exclude a feature?

That's easy - because every one of their products goes through extensive design and evaluation processes, led by what is widely acknowledged as one of the world's best industrial design teams which has won awards for their work, and then tested and tested and tested to fine tune the final device.

There's no way to know for sure that they didn't 'just forget' something, but there is every reason to believe, from their track record and product development history that it is very unlikely that anything missing from the iPhone is missing for any reason other than that they intentionally excluded it.

There could be several possible reasons for excluding what seems like a perfectly good feature - it may be that adding that feature detracted from what they saw as the form and function of the device, or that adding it caused undue battery drain, or conflicted with licensing or the deal with AT&T. It may have been that they left features out in order to get the item to market, with the intention of adding them later. These are things we don't know. What we DO know is how the company typically functions when creating a new product, and there's nothing to suggest they 'forget' things.

There IS, on the other hand, plenty of evidence to suggest they sometimes get things wrong!

"There's no way to know for sure that they didn't 'just forget' something"

***Precisely***

Precisely

Where it is impossible to know something, precision is also impossible. Hence the context from which you extracted my quote, which is the nearest to being precise it is possible to get.

I don't mean to "split hairs" with you. I'm only stating that Apple certainly had the ability to add some "basic" features that all modern cell phones have and certainly that "smartphones" have. Therefore, being human (albiet very smart humans), it is very conceivable that they just missed the boat on some stuff. It is more troubling if they actually thought of it, and then didn't include it. I'll give you but one example of the largest problem I have with the phone:

It doesn't have an intelligent search of contacts as it does when you are sending an email. This is a major flaw when you have over a thousand contacts. The alpha bar "tries" to help, but it really is an astounding ommission (and yes I know that they never advertised the phone as a business phone). I am fairly confident that this could have been included without negatively effecting anything else with the phone.

pls my fellow iphone owners( and trolls) keep in mind that the iphone is doing things that know other phone is capable of . somtimes you just gotta kick back and smell the roses