multiclips loses sync in reconnection in FCP6 !!!

Hello,

I work for a company that depends on FCP. All of our assistants are running into the same problem where multiclips made on one drive in FCP6, lose sync when passed to the editor on a different drive.

The only workaround I have come up with without renaming the drives the exact same thing, is to stack the clips in the timeline making multi-clipping null and void. Freaking stone age. What's up with this apple????

8 core G5 Intel, Mac OS X (10.4.9), 4 gig ram

Posted on Sep 19, 2007 3:04 PM

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Sep 19, 2007 4:44 PM in response to Dogllama

What format and frame rate are you shooting editing in, and how are you capturing?

There are some issues with the way FCP handles multiclips within the sequence XML.

As an alternative to renaming the drives, you might try saving the project file to the media drive so it has a directly relative path to the media - I know this work when moving DVDSP projects around, but haven't tried it with FCP.

Sep 25, 2007 8:52 AM in response to Dogllama

In your first post you stated you were copying (move is the word you used) the media to another drive. It is NOT a work around. It is best practice to use the media manager to do this. It's one of the things it has been designed for. I've never seen a copy process fail doing this, and I do it all the time. A copy of a file less than 20mb is a problem? Maybe I don't understand your workflow?

This isn't a bug in FCP 6, it's cause is coming from the way you are copying the files. It's a problem created by copying QT movies on the desktop... If there's a bug here, it's in the current OS. I've seen QT movies lose their resource forks over and over, and so if you don't use the media manager, it's likely you'll encounter problems.

Jerry

Sep 26, 2007 8:02 AM in response to Jerry Hofmann

Hi, I have the same problem as Dogllama. I make some tests and the results are that this strange thing do every version of FCP 6. In FCP 5 multiclips works fine, so Jerry, it looks like a bug of FCP 6. And another strange thing is, that sometimes FCP lose sync in multiclips on opening project. That is worst, because you didn't see this. You normaly save project, but with asynchronous multiclips and you have two ways to corect it. Manualy get multiclip to sync by timecode with hand tool (but if you have about 50 multiclips per one episode of serial story, it is very hard) or put your hard work to trash and restore project to the last synchronous copy.

Apple go and do something with that please.

Sep 28, 2007 9:36 AM in response to Jerry Hofmann

Hi Jerry,

yes I didn't move media. Everything I did, I was reconnected multiclips to same media I have captured and the multiclip goes out of sync. I'm using XD CAM HD media imported via sony XD CAM transfer tool. But as I read on this forum, it doesn't matter what format media is, because it isn't work on DV, XDCAM HD and I also tryed to capture media from XD CAM HD via HD SDI input on my decklink card to uncompressed 4:2:2 but with no effect. I have still the same problem. Any ideas to resolve this problem?

Sep 28, 2007 2:53 PM in response to Jerry Hofmann

Hi Jerry,

Media gets moved, it gets copied, it gets thrown all over the place. Sometimes clients are in a bay and we have to copy the media to an editor's drive over the network. Media manager is not always a practical solution.

MAYBE consolidating media through media manager and having the exact same project works in a vaccum. But in the real world of post production, things are not like that.

Also, it is a bug. It is repeatable.

I think the real problem here is that the same process of multiclipping and moving media around worked FINE it FCP05. That's right, it worked in 5 but not in 6.

It sounds to me like Apple broke something when they rushed out FCP06 and just does not want to admit it...

Sep 29, 2007 4:33 PM in response to Jerry Hofmann

Hi Jerry,

and why not? Everything I would like to say is that isn't realy matter, where the media files are located. Indeed I was copied my media to another drive and after their reconnecting I saw this problem. Then I tryed to reconnect original project to original non copied media, but still with the same effect. As many people here, we are using Finalcut to offline cuting and we have to copy our mediafiles to our editors. We can't use media manager because the quantity of media files are realy big and when our editors finish editing, they can't again copy whole media to us. And btw why? We have it already, that isn't profesional workflow. And it is everything about reconnecting, because there is one way when the multiclips are all right in sync. When we name the source drive equal like destination drive, same path, the multiclips will not reconnected and they continued in sync. But this is NOT resolution. Sometimes FinalCut goes mad and some multiclip goes offline or out of sync automaticaly.

So If there is anybody from apple reading this forum, please try this and repair it please.

Oct 8, 2007 4:04 PM in response to dejwik

This is most definitely an issue with FCP6. I've been working on a documentary for the last year or so with the other editor across the country. We have had two sets of media, which were copies not done with media manager. In version 5, we were able to go back and forth between systems without any problems. Now multiclips are always out of sync (except for the active angle, which is odd) on systems other than the system on which the multiclip was created.

Another issue, which may be related, audio tracks with speed changes are no longer in sync when the project is opened in FCP 6.

So don't worry guys, you're not alone.

Oct 30, 2007 12:03 PM in response to Dogllama

Yes! I am having this issue as well. I would not shy away from using Media Manager, but I work on two systems constantly throughout production. My assistant is merging clips, as I edit away on another system and drive. I have to be able to work on a sequence and at the end of the day, grab the newly merged clips from my editor. It just doesn't work, if I'm having to recopy the same media over and over to my drive through Media Manager in order to use these clips.

If I were using centralized storage for these two computers, would this be any different?

Are there any solutions from Apple?

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