G5 won't calibrate - colors are very saturated?

Did you enable the Expert settings in the calibrate window?

Then, I'm out of ideas. Sorry.

dahliakro, first go to System Preferences/Universal Access/Seeing and make sure that the Enhance Contrast is set to Normal. Then make sure you saving each of the re-calibrations with their own unique name, maybe use a dated a suffix at the end,
Also set the Desktop to a medium Gray before each calibration, no Screen Savers in the background. On screen RGB colors are very reflective.
Are you working in a particular color space for multi applications?

Joe

I recommend SuperCal:

http://www.bergdesign.com/supercal/

Cheers!

Thanks for providing feedback. Good computing.

Hi all.

I've been going crazy - no one can seem to help me out - I just found this thread and it resembles my problem.

But the solution you've suggested, which worked in this case, has not worked for me.

Here's my issue:

- After installing Tiger for the first time on a second interior HD, I selected in my display prefs the Adobe RGB 1998 setting, which has been perfect on my other interior HD with Panther on it. Yet colours on screen appeared to be way too contrasty.

- So I calibrated my monitor. Soon after clicking 'done' and saving my profile, the screen seemed to change again to the way too contrasty look of the Adobe RGB 1998 profile!

- I then opened an Illustrator CS1 file that I had created on my Panther disk. The image had an orange background which was now viewing as insanely bright assaulting redish orange, while all dark colours were too saturated!

- Keeping this file open, I recalibrated my monitor using it as a barometer for colour comparison. Everything seemed to be going well, and I even set my Target Gamma to a much lower number (1.27) until my Illustrator file resembled the colour I had viewed it on my Panther disk.

- Then again when clicking 'done' and saving my profile, the screen reverted to a dark and intense colour as before.

- My Illustrator file looked 'normal', so I closed it. Then I opened a Photoshop file - same intensely saturated colour issue!

- Upon reopening the Illustrator file to view alongside this Photoshop one, the colour was back to the insanely intense reddish orange prior to my calibration!

- I will mention here that my entire Creative Suite is set to Adobe RGB as the colour space - just like on my Panther disk. I am convinced it isn't a CS problem.

- And what convinces me even more is what happened next:

- I kept the too bright Illustrator file open, and opened up an older copy of it that I had created days before (I had made a minor change to a graphic, then did a 'Save As'). They both were viewing as different colours! The original intensely orange one remained so, and the older file had a browny colour to it! Same file, same colours, viewing as if they were on two different monitors! I even went into the individual files to compare the colour values and they were exact.

- I even went so far as to replace all Colorsync folders/files with the ones on my Panther disk, which I wouldn't normally do, but hey - I'm desperate! Anyway, no difference at all - still screwed up colour.

The odd thing is that even when I select all of the other display settings, they still make my CS documents look awful. So neither profile works at all.

What to do, what to do....!?

At first, I thought it was an issue when I selected the 'import' option at the end of the Tiger install. It imported all settings from my Panther disk. But the I erased the disk, and reinstalled Tiger clean with no imports. Same glitch.

I have one last resort: When I purchased Tiger, I bought two copies, one for me, one for my bus partner. I will open hers shortly and do a clean install with that one, just in case my disk is flukey or something.

Any geniuses out there who can help poor lil old me?

thanks,
B.

So I calibrated my monitor. Soon after clicking 'done' and saving my profile, the screen seemed to change again to the way too contrasty look of the Adobe RGB 1998 profile!





Belly, this sounds like you are not saving your setting but are overriding them with the previous ones. That is why I give each calibration a unique name and date ( joe's computer 10/12/07.icc, etc.). My computer is scheduled to be calibrated every 30 days. As new monitor profiles re created the older ones can be removed from the system, HD/Library/ColorSync/Profiles/Displays folder. That naming process is not necessary but it is how I keep track, just be sure to save the setting after you change them.

The vector program I use is Freehand, but as long as use the same Color Space (Adobe 1998) and I select the same display profile my images are not that far off image from the Photoshop originals. I do not know about Illustrator but Photoshop unlike Freehand uses whatever display profiles that selected in the System Preferences.

Joe

Hi Joe.

Thanks for your help, but I just tried SuperCal 1.14, to no avail.

And I always give my profiles new names like SyncMaster Calibrated 1, SyncMaster Calibrated 2, etc.

I also did the following:

- Opened Universal Access prefs, pumped up the contrast slider to high, closed the prefs, reopened and put the slider back to normal, as SuperCal's site notes suggested, due to an earlier bug in OS X.

Again, my colour settings in the CS apps are always synched and always Adobe RGB 1998 colour space. In Panther these very same settings are working excellently for me. There is something wrong with the Tiger software - that I am sure of.

As well, and as I've stated above, I've opened two Illustrator files which were literally copies of each other and both looked different on my screen.

Just plain weird....

Any other suggestions?

B.

Belly, try posting in the G4 Display Section and see if you can get any answers there this post is marked answered, so not many troubleshooter will read it. Also Adobe has a Support Form that is said to be very good, maybe see what they have to say.

http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=584

In the mean time I will think about it on my way home.

1. Are the image RGB or CMYK?
2. Are you converting them?
3. Are there any embedded profiles?
4. Open the Color Settings window in Photoshop. Is their such a window in Illustrator with the same settings?
5. What type monitor is it?

Joe

Thanks Joe. Will do.

In answer to your questions:

1) Both the Illustrator and Photoshop images are in CMYK mode.
2) Converting them? From CMYK to RGB, you mean? No.
3) Yes, the profiles are embedded.
4) I've set both Photoshop and Illustrator to the same colour settings (Adobe RGB)
5) Samsung SyncMaster 214T silver.

However, it's my entire screen - background images, icons, etc. Not just my CS files.

thanks,
B.

OK, BB, let's try this...
Let's see if we can get the monitor calibrated first, then we will adjust the profiles for your applications. Go to your Display Preferences again and re-calibrate the monitor. However this time choose your Samsung SyncMaster 214T silver as the Display profile. OK calibrate, Expert Mode, 1.8 Gamma, Use native white point (unless you have paper simulation active in you embedded profiles), then go ahead and replace the present Samsung profile.

Now open PhotoshopCS3 and set the Color Settings to ...

RGB: Adobe RGB (1998)
CMYK: U.S. Web Coated (SWOP)
GRAY: select your Dot Gain
SPOT: select your Dot Gain

Set all Color Management to Preserve and uncheck all Profile Mismatches boxes.

Now you should be able to open any image in Photoshop with a Embedded Profile (set the drop down arrow at the bottom of the window to show Document Profile) and go to Main Menu/View/Proof Color or Command-Y to view the image with the profile or as it will print.

If the above calibration does not get you any joy what so ever, then maybe it is an entirely different issue.

Joe

Hi Joe.

Sorry for the delay in response. Thanks again for all your help.

Okay - I've tried what you suggested and colours are still not right. I'm convinced, however, that it is an Apple issue and not Adobe.

The best way to explain it is this: my Tiger disk simply shows all colours - desktop wallpaper, icons, etc. - as more contrasted than my Panther disk - before I even open a file at all.

I've also tried switching monitors and the issue persists (I went from my LCD to an apple CRT).

So something native to Tiger....

Is there any other system pref that adjusts overall display colour (other than the display profiles pane)?

B.