ok so i dont even know if this is the right place to post but im gonna give it a shot. i am a real estate agent in texas, and am looking at buying a 15inch powerbook with the works.(upgrades) i am a major mac fan and was wondering if anyone has run into problems with mac in this line of work as far as compatibility and such. if you cant answer then its cool im sure i can geek my way through whatever problems i encounter but i know that the people on these discussion boards have been helpful to me in the past so i thought i would get some feedback. thanks for taking the time to read.
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I was told i might be able to run active x on firefox im gonna look into it some. let me know if anyone has tried it
dramsey76,
Please, don't get me started on some so-called IT guys. The sad part is that most of these guys that call themselves IT guys are trained at Microsoft technical schools. Many don't understand what they are doing and they memorize certain tasks on specific platforms. In this case MS. So are they IT guys or glorified MS sales reps? You be the judge.
Bottom line is that it depends what your office setup looks like. What type of a network is it? and what is running off of the XP server? Are you running any specific server software that require XP clients? Rest assured that in almost all cases, there is no reason to exclude the Mac other than because of ignorance. The more you can understand the network the better people around here can advise you on how to go about a solution. Let me know.
Can you explain that a little further. Were you able to access the Internet on your Mac laptop's browser via the office network?
iCal and Mail are great but can be limited depending on your needs. Thad's post #4 has a great link to real estate software resources. There is a Contact Manager software program that I tested on the Mac called DayLite This program is phenomenal on any platform and integrates well with Mail and address book and syncs with Palm. The company that created it is thirsty for getting better and are very open to feedback and suggestions. Lastly go to Apple's Made4Mac and type in a keyword or select Business and Vertical market and you'll find other programs out there.
Let me know how it goes.
Patrick
IT guy who stated that I would need Windows XP and that it is not compatible with the MAC OS platform
Please, don't get me started on some so-called IT guys. The sad part is that most of these guys that call themselves IT guys are trained at Microsoft technical schools. Many don't understand what they are doing and they memorize certain tasks on specific platforms. In this case MS. So are they IT guys or glorified MS sales reps? You be the judge.
Bottom line is that it depends what your office setup looks like. What type of a network is it? and what is running off of the XP server? Are you running any specific server software that require XP clients? Rest assured that in almost all cases, there is no reason to exclude the Mac other than because of ignorance. The more you can understand the network the better people around here can advise you on how to go about a solution. Let me know.
I was able to obtain a passkey to get internet access
Can you explain that a little further. Were you able to access the Internet on your Mac laptop's browser via the office network?
Does anyone know of any good Real Estate software for managing scheduling and contact information or do you all find iCal and Mail suitable enough?
iCal and Mail are great but can be limited depending on your needs. Thad's post #4 has a great link to real estate software resources. There is a Contact Manager software program that I tested on the Mac called DayLite This program is phenomenal on any platform and integrates well with Mail and address book and syncs with Palm. The company that created it is thirsty for getting better and are very open to feedback and suggestions. Lastly go to Apple's Made4Mac and type in a keyword or select Business and Vertical market and you'll find other programs out there.
Let me know how it goes.
Patrick
Daniel,
Apparently there is a plug-in for the Windows Firefox but not for the Mac version. Its not clear however how good that plugin is anyway. That's not necessarily a bad thing, ActiveX is a security risk!
Patrick
Apparently there is a plug-in for the Windows Firefox but not for the Mac version. Its not clear however how good that plugin is anyway. That's not necessarily a bad thing, ActiveX is a security risk!
Patrick
I got an email from my MLS provider and they said i would have to run virtual pc which breaks my heart. but if thats what it takes and thats the only thing i am doing with it i guess it might work out. however now i am faced with the problem that i dont konw much about VPC nor do i understand what exactly it is so if anyone can point me in the right direction i would apreciate it.
thanks for all the support yall.
thanks for all the support yall.
Daniel,
Sorry to hear about you local MLS. Still though, don't give up. Be sure that the reason for having to use VPC is the ActiveX and not some other lame reason. For example, some websites will run a script that identifies your browser and if it isn't one of the ones they want you to use, it will return an invalid entry or no access. But you can trick these sites by telling Safari to identify itself as IE 6, mozilla or Netscape. Is your MLS provided by Interrealty by any chance? They use ActiveX and have so far refused to allow third party developers in on their site.
You could also consider buying a cheap PC and use it only for MLS. And if you think you may need to access the MLS elsewhere, you can now download and view listings on a portable phone like the Treo.
Some general info on the Virtual PC I have never used it so I can't tell you more about it or which version to buy.
Remember that your local realty board is intrumental in assigning the rights of the mls to software developers like Interrealty can develop it. And you pay your dues as a memeber and should therefore make your dissatisfaction to them clear. There are absolutely no advantages to the ActiveX other than a way to lock out non-MS competitors. And ActiveX is a central figure in the security vulnerability of IE.
Patrick
Sorry to hear about you local MLS. Still though, don't give up. Be sure that the reason for having to use VPC is the ActiveX and not some other lame reason. For example, some websites will run a script that identifies your browser and if it isn't one of the ones they want you to use, it will return an invalid entry or no access. But you can trick these sites by telling Safari to identify itself as IE 6, mozilla or Netscape. Is your MLS provided by Interrealty by any chance? They use ActiveX and have so far refused to allow third party developers in on their site.
You could also consider buying a cheap PC and use it only for MLS. And if you think you may need to access the MLS elsewhere, you can now download and view listings on a portable phone like the Treo.
Some general info on the Virtual PC I have never used it so I can't tell you more about it or which version to buy.
Remember that your local realty board is intrumental in assigning the rights of the mls to software developers like Interrealty can develop it. And you pay your dues as a memeber and should therefore make your dissatisfaction to them clear. There are absolutely no advantages to the ActiveX other than a way to lock out non-MS competitors. And ActiveX is a central figure in the security vulnerability of IE.
Patrick
ok pat well my mls provider is paragon and as far as ive looked into it, which is pretty far, it must have ie. im not sure what you meant about making safari seem like IE or where i would go about it. i would be willing to try it out though so if you have any details please let me have them. also i considered buying a cheep pc notebook for mls use but i didnt feel it was worth the effort. i would much rather have a do it al lmachine even if it means i will be running vpc. i have access to apc at home so when necessary for speed reasons i can use it for mls when im at home. i am planing on running a wireless pc internet card provided by cingular so you can see where having one laptop would be advantagous. oh and i have a treo650 as of right now. mls is a great feature which i do take advantage of but it still is limiting, and having the full version of it whereever i am would be far more useful and impressive. thanks for your input and concern but as of now considering all that i will actually be doing on it, i think im gonna go with VPC at least untill i can geek my way into a way around it, or my provider wises up after my countless emaills and gets rid of active x.
Daniel,
I'll send you the script to activate the Safari Debug menu as soon as I get power back up in my office. All I was able to find out about Paragon is that it is .Net, don't know much more and don't know if diguising Safari as IE would help either.
Please share your experience with VPC, the Mac and real estate after you've figured your way around it for a while.
Patrick
I'll send you the script to activate the Safari Debug menu as soon as I get power back up in my office. All I was able to find out about Paragon is that it is .Net, don't know much more and don't know if diguising Safari as IE would help either.
Please share your experience with VPC, the Mac and real estate after you've figured your way around it for a while.
Patrick
As promised, to turn on the debug menu, open a Terminal window and type:
defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeDebugMenu 1
Then Open Safari. You'll notice a new menu choice called "Debug", here you should be able to select a different agent (IE, Netscape, etc).
I want to bring your attention to this Apple Developer documet about .Net and ASPX sites: http://developer.apple.com/internet/safari/faq.html#anchor23 So assuming Paragon does not use Active X, you should be fine with any browser on your Mac. You could also try accessing with IE 5 on your Mac.
Patrick
defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeDebugMenu 1
Then Open Safari. You'll notice a new menu choice called "Debug", here you should be able to select a different agent (IE, Netscape, etc).
I want to bring your attention to this Apple Developer documet about .Net and ASPX sites: http://developer.apple.com/internet/safari/faq.html#anchor23 So assuming Paragon does not use Active X, you should be fine with any browser on your Mac. You could also try accessing with IE 5 on your Mac.
Patrick
Hello there;
To Daneil and Pat,
I have been working on this problem for about a month and I am making head way. Give me about another week and I should have something for all use Realtors.
Pat thanks for all your input and you are the one that has given me the idea. I am about 80% sure it will work. THKS....as it goes for the MLS most that I see you need IE 5.5 or higher and that is it. Easy right..LOL..Ok I will post here within one week or less to let you know if I got it going 🙂 everyone have a great hoilday!
Charles Denney
To Daneil and Pat,
I have been working on this problem for about a month and I am making head way. Give me about another week and I should have something for all use Realtors.
Pat thanks for all your input and you are the one that has given me the idea. I am about 80% sure it will work. THKS....as it goes for the MLS most that I see you need IE 5.5 or higher and that is it. Easy right..LOL..Ok I will post here within one week or less to let you know if I got it going 🙂 everyone have a great hoilday!
Charles Denney
wow im glad to see such a good response from everybody. this is daniel by the way i had to change my apple id. anyways look foward to a resolution. hang in there yall. peace, and thanks
ok so i had a chance to try running safari masquerated as IE and still no luck. sorry fellas it looks like il be running vpc just so i can run my MLS. im not crying to hard about it. but let me know if you make any major breakthroughs on this topic seeing as i wont be getting my power book till maybe mid this month. anyways thanks for everything.
well same thing here, I am an agent in NJ and they have converted and no luck on my mac. they said not compatable, even with explorer. it says you ie 5 or greater which we do, but that it will not work because of the way the program was written. Believe me I have tried for over a year. windows must be used. I also now have an issue where our company has converted over to web based outlook, so needless to say I have no clue what they have done, but that mail site can not even be accssed in my windows. I had everything running through entourage in my mac, ok it was pop3. Now I think something else was done, and also I have no clue what this now means, I have had no mail through my company account since yesterday, we all logged on at the office using their t1 lines, we could not log on at home. Now I wonder about e-mail forwarding, which I did not do. Just had my outgoing set as my ip comcast, incoming was from an intranet-company etc..so if this is outlook web based what does this mean as the outlook for mac, was the old express. The admin said I can use my software based app. of outlook by just changing a setting, nothing. Is anyone else familiar with the outlook exchange server, and how it effects, us mac users or any for that matter. From what I have read it seems that our company can access and administer our account from their end without our knowledge. is this true, and how can we get around it. I have rambled, but am so annoyed that i am loosing my mind
Has anyone figured out a work around to our inability to access mls sites with a mac?? (besides VPC)
to my knowledge no. saddly. i even tried masking safari but no sucess.
Have any of you tried Opera with those MLS sites? I've found it to be workable on many sites that Safari had difficulties with.
apple & real estate?