iPhone (SDK) Developer Forum

The iPhone runs OS X (reportedly an optimized version of Leopard since the release date) as will the software developed for the iPhone.

As MS develops software for OS X (Office), I venture to say they do so with Macs running OS X.

Most or all of the developers at the meeting yesterday probably develop software that runs on OS X so they certainly already have Macs for this purpose.

I don't think many software developers for the Windows platform do so with a Mac running OS X. With an Intel Mac that runs Windows natively, software developers for both platforms can now use an Intel Mac running OS X and Windows if they so choose.

Safari, iTunes and Quicktime are Apple products. Apple developed the Windows versions for these applications and probably did so using Windows PCs.

or oh they dont have time and resources to make an sdk for other OSs but they still want them as iphone customers!

A software developer that hasn't developed any software for the OS X platform to date - so no need to have an Intel Mac running Leopard, and has a software idea in mind for the iPhone to be sold for profit, probably won't have much issue with purchasing an Intel Mac running Leopard - with the cost of their investment be recouped with the sales of their software - assuming it is a desired application that sells.

So the rest of us shall just watch and wait for Santa to give us shinyg apps? Life is too short to be wasted waiting for apple updates.

I for one am not watching and waiting for anything. I'm sure there will be some software available as a result of the SDK that I might be interested in, but nothing I absolutely need and waiting for. I'm not a software developer for my Mac at home and my Windows PC at work. I must "wait" for a software developer to provide an application I'm interested in so the iPhone should be no different. This isn't any different for Blackberry, Palm or Windows mobile device owners.

If you aren't interested in waiting, no one is forcing you to do so. If the iPhone does not meet your needs and wants, and you don't want to wait for 3rd party software that does meet your needs and wants, there are plenty of other devices for you to choose from.

MAC OS didnt fall from the sky! it was orginated from an unix variant! and if it is possible to license office and exchange and have it running on apple, and have quicktime and safari running on windows. you can have sdk run on any platform you wish. especially when its not a question of hardware architecture. the hic here is that there is no plan for that.

you can have sdk run on any platform you wish.

Regardless, Apple doesn't wish to.

It is what it is, so take it or leave it.

In response to: Allan Sampson's "it is what it is..."

OK SmartAss, we get it!!!

How do you know that Apple doe not wish to? When Apple does not discuss this publicly?
Are you an Apple employee?

Jose
Miami, FL

Message was edited by: Peptide

How do you know that Apple doe not wish to? When Apple does not discuss this publicly?

I "doe" know Puptide, without having to be an Apple employee.

Clear as day for those who choose to read it under Download the Free SDK.

http://developer.apple.com/iphone/program/

+Technical Requirement: *Intel processor-based Mac running Mac OS X Leopard*+

Nothing has to be discussed publicly since it is very apparent that Apple chooses (or "wishes") to support an Intel Mac running OS X Leopard ONLY for the SDK. Not a PC running Windows XP or Vista, not Linux, or anything else besides an Intel Mac running Leopard.

I Just downloaded the iPhone SDK; but it wont let me download it because it says i need to have a 10.5.1 [ tiger ] ? is there a way to be able to use it for my eMac? [ 10.4.11 ? ]

'fraid not.

10.5.x is Leopard.

10.4.x is Tiger.

Copied from my previous post for the SDK technical requirement.

+Technical Requirement: *Intel processor-based Mac running Mac OS X Leopard*+

You can't use the SDK with your eMac. You need a Mac with an Intel processor running Leopard.

What do you plan on doing with the SDK? Have you programmed software before? If not, I wouldn't waste your time.

PEOPLE!

Can you please bring this discussion to another thread, instead of hi-jacking this one!

And for the person who finds fault with the fact that you have to do this work on a Mac, perhaps it's time to realize that Apple is the future. Why would any of us want this running on Microsoft? Why oh why?

Peptide wrote:
In response to: Allan Sampson's "it is what it is..."

OK SmartAss, we get it!!!

How do you know that Apple doe not wish to? When Apple does not discuss this publicly?
Are you an Apple employee?

Jose
Miami, FL

Message was edited by: Peptide

Peptide, you are OK in my book! 🙂

ScottKleinberg wrote:
And for the person who finds fault with the fact that you have to do this work on a Mac, perhaps it's time to realize that Apple is the future. Why would any of us want this running on Microsoft? Why oh why?

Yeah. Lets get into a "My OS is better than your OS, debate." That will be real productive (and mature).

Having a development platform on PC would forward the goals of Apple, that is why. PC developers would write apps for the iPhone. More apps mean a better chance for great apps. And, great apps means iPhone is more successful. However, I suspect creating such a development platform would be a daunting task when everything has been done, so far, on the Mac.

I have just setup www.iphonedevforums.com to try to centralize iPhone developer discussion. If we all move to one place hopefully we can get a much needed home for development discussion.

Just as a head's up Apple considers the SDK to be covered under an NDA by developers. They don't want people discussing it even on the Apple Cocoa mailing list.

Discussing what about it? Surely developers can talk to each other about coding in it? I don't understand, obviously we shouldn't distribute it or take pictures of it, but comparing and distributing our own code should be fine.


Everyone help me move developer discussion over to http://www.iphonedevforums.com !! So we can have our own entire website just for us.