IP Address in use by another

Hi Rick,

I downloaded the manuals as you said, but I'm afraid that many of them are pre-OSX era, except for one that talks about PostScript printing. This tip is worthless because it assumes you already have your 3K going.
I havent found no part of the manual that talks about IP setting or similar.
On the other hand, I am completely sure the 3K is network ready. Not only it has the original EPSON Ethernet card. I can really print from my other machine, a G4/400 with OS 9.2.2. Another G4/700 I had until it became substituted for this iMac 20" + Tiger could print without problems...

As I said Im triying to GIMP print. But until tomorrow I wont be able to give it a try...

Anyway, thanks a lot for addressing me. Its equally helpful since I think I will need Posscript printing soon!

I will let you know ASAP!

OK, after I sent you that page full of documentation, I looked in user's guide and didn't see anything about setting network configuration, either. Sorry.


Somethings that might help.
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/12797
http://forums.macosxhints.com/archive/index.php/t-3768.html

But the more I read, the more it looks like Epson adandonded drivers for this printer, back at Mac OS 10.2.xx

You might be looking at a dinosaur printer, unless you have any 9.2 Macs left, and can use that older mac as a print server, somehow, but that's going to be a really long shot.

Thanks a lot Van.

Maybe youre right and thats all about a dinosaur printer regarding both the release date and the size of it! 😉

Im afraid I still can't put it to work. I'll be calling EPSON tomorrow Monday and hear what they've got to say. I still cant print wia the G4/OS9 but the more I think about it, the more I convince myself I'll kick that printers' *** and try to sell it or something. If I dont get any results before the year's end I'll give up...

OK, I'll let you know soon how it ends...

Thanks a lot and have a nice Xmas Holiday!

Hi Tim...

To do this look in your routers DHCP server settings
for this feature.

WHAT?

Could you please explain it a little more? Am I suppossed to have some kind of control panel or someting where I can manage such kind of things?

Thanks!!!

Charles!

Thats quite a lot of good info! I never thought a router could have such things inside!
I'm giving it a try this very afternoon and see what happens. Just that I got a doubt:

What if the tip on the login to the router's config page fails? I mean, if the router is password protected and the word "admin" doesn't work?...

Anyway I'll give it the chance by now...

Thanks a lot, this is very helpful!

Thanks!

Charles!

Thats quite a lot of good info! I never thought a
router could have such things inside!

Be thankful you don't have to deal with big routers. Cisco makes some things which pretty much demand command-line operation. Lots and lots of very annoying command-line operations. Cisco bought Linksys, so officially Linksys routers are Ciscos... but fortunately you don't have to mess with command-line stuff with the Linksys stuff.

I'm giving it a try this very afternoon and see what
happens. Just that I got a doubt:

What if the tip on the login to the router's config
page fails? I mean, if the router is password
protected and the word "admin" doesn't work?...

The router should have come with a Read Me on the CD. One of the items in the Read Me will be the system password and username.

If someone's changed the password since the router was installed, there's a reset switch hidden behind a small hole on the back panel of all Linksys routers I've ever seen. Use a paperclip to reset the device to factory settings. The proceedure should also be in the Read Me, along with a diagram of the ports on that particular device, showing you exactly where the reset port is.

Anyway I'll give it the chance by now...

Thanks a lot, this is very helpful!

Thanks!

no problem.

Hi Charles!

Did as you addressed me, and successfully got into the router. Found the place where I can manually add an IP and tell the router that such IP goes along whit a certain MAC address... But it still isnt working... When I launch some print job, the printer driver tells me "Print process could not be completed. The server 192.168.1.36 -wich is the address I gave to the printer- is busy, down or unreachable. Retrying in 30 secs."

I think I'm givin up that s *, (sorry for bad words), but I'm so tired of this that I think it would be better to resell that printer and buy a new one...

Anyway I'm very thankful for your help, and also want to thank, others in the post who helped me.

I'm giving you my email address just in case you are tired of this thread and want to go along with it via email to see if we find a solution, if you stop at this point, dont worry, I'll understand...

Thanks anyway for all!!!

jotae9@hotmail.com

Jota,

To easily test basic network connectivity to your printer try using the "ping" command within Terminal (then type "control-c" to stop it):

ping 192.168.1.36

If you have network connectivity to the printer you will see something like:

PING 192.168.1.36 (192.168.1.36): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 192.168.1.36: icmp_seq=0 ttl=127 time=4.272 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.36: icmp_seq=1 ttl=127 time=2.142 ms
... continues until you type ctl-c ...

If you don't have connectivity then you will get a long pause and then something like:

PING 192.168.1.36 (192.168.1.36): 56 data bytes
ping: sendto: No route to host
ping: sendto: Host is down
ping: sendto: Host is down
... continues until you type ctl-c ...

If your ping is successfull (but you still can't print) then you likely have either a printer configuration or driver problem.

If your ping fails then you still have a networking problem that needs solving first. As Charles points out, it is possible that your printer and Computer are on different "subnets" based on their IP addresses.

Let us know if your ping fails and someone will work with you to solve that first.

Tim

17 PB G4, Xserve G5x2, XRAID 2.5TB, 20 iMac G5, 17 iMac G4 Mac OS X (10.4.3)

Hi Tim, I hope you have had a nice Xmas Holiday and a nice beginning into this 2006...
I apologize for beign so "quiet" all this time, but I've been out for Xmas Holidays...

I'm taking back the printer issue so here are the latest:

I found I could print a test sheet (a configuration sheet, to be exact) where it tells everything about the printer: Card Type, MAC address, IP, etc...

IP address: 192.168.73.2
Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.73.1
RARP: OFF
BOOTP: OFF
DHCP: OFF
PING: ON

I tried to crerate a new subnet in the router with this settings:

Subnet value 192.168.73.0
Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
Get subnet from IP interface: none
Maximum lease time 3600 seconds
Default lease time 3600 seconds

IP addresses to be available on this subnet
You need to make sure that the start and end addresses offered in this range are within the subnet you defined above. Alternatively, you may check the Use a default range box to assign a suitable default IP address pool on this subnet.
Start of address range 192.168.73.2 (I manually put this)
End of address range 192.168.73.33 (this one too)
Use a default range: yes (checkmark)

DNS server option information
Enter the addresses of Primary and Secondary DNS servers to be provided to DHCP clients on this subnet. You may instead allow DHCP server to specify its own IP address by clicking on the Use local host address as DNS server checkbox.
Primary DNS server address 0.0.0.0
Secondary DNS server address 0.0.0.0

Use local host address as DNS server (no - mark unchecked)
Default gateway option information
Use local host as default gateway (yes - mark checked)

Additional option information
Add and remove items from this list to configure additional option information you would like the DHCP server to give to clients on this subnet.
Name Value Delete?
default-gateway 192.168.73.1 (this was the only place where I could manually assign a Default gateway setting...)

After that I tried pinging in the Terminal:

PING 192.168.73.2 (192.168.73.2): 56 data bytes
36 bytes from 192.168.153.1: Communication prohibited by filter
Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst
4 5 00 0054 b429 0 0000 3f 01 fc0b 192.168.1.33 192.168.73.2

^C
--- 192.168.73.2 ping statistics ---
6 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss

It seems I got no connectivity but what amuses me is that "Communication prohibited by filter" message...

I just know one thing: I still know less than before!
I'm taking this with philosophy...

Well, here it is...
Any ideas?

Big thanks!

Jota,

From some of the info in your post I think that you may have more than one configuration problem. But I do see two things that are very important indicators of why you can't reach your printer.

Note that your printer config. sheet indicates that the printer's current IP address is statically set (DHCP: OFF) and has an IP of 192.168.73.2. Then, your ping results (PING 192.168.73.2 (192.168.73.2): 56 data bytes) show that your Mac is using the same IP.

This obviously cannot work. So, go to your Mac's Network preference pane, and set "TCP/IP" for the connection you are using to "Manually" with an IP address of 192.168.73.3 (anything other than .2) and a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0. Then, apply these temporary settings and then try to "ping 192.168.73.2" again. You should get a reply.

If you do, then try typing http://192.168.73.2/ into Safari to reach your printer's web config. utility. Then, the first thing you need to do is turn DHCP: ON, then save the settings and then restart the printer.

Then, set your Mac's TCP/IP settings back to DHCP and apply the settings.

Assuming that your network has only one router that is serving as a DHCP server, your Mac, and Printer should then both have different DHCP assigned IP addresses, but in the same subnet. If and when that is the case (try printing the printer config again and then pinging it's IP) then you should be able to set up the printer as an IP printer.

If this still doesn't work, then I would guess that you either have more than one device on your network that is trying to be a DHCP server or a device (router or printer) that has some very odd settings that may require a "reset to factory defaults" to start fresh.

The "Communication prohibited by filter" message is certainly odd, and the results mentioning 192.168.73.2, 192.168.153.1, and 192.168.1.33 (all in different subnets if your mask is 255.255.255.0) is even more perplexing. This seems to point to the fact that either there are incorrect static configurations, multiple DHCP servers, or multiple NAT routers on your network that are all confusing the issue.

Good luck again,

Tim

17 PB G4, Xserve G5x2, XRAID 2.5TB, 20 iMac G5, 17 iMac G4 Mac OS X (10.4.3)

Jota,

From some of the info in your post I think that you
may have more than one configuration problem. But I
do see two things that are very important indicators
of why you can't reach your printer.

Note that your printer config. sheet indicates that
the printer's current IP address is statically set
(DHCP: OFF) and has an IP of 192.168.73.2. Then,
your ping results (PING 192.168.73.2 (192.168.73.2):
56 data bytes) show that your Mac is using the same
IP.

Ooh, I missed that. That's bad.

This obviously cannot work.

No kidding.

[snip]

If this still doesn't work, then I would guess that
you either have more than one device on your network
that is trying to be a DHCP server or a device
(router or printer) that has some very odd settings
that may require a "reset to factory defaults" to
start fresh.

There's something on that net that's not set correctly, that's for sure.

The "Communication prohibited by filter" message is
certainly odd, and the results mentioning
192.168.73.2, 192.168.153.1, and 192.168.1.33 (all in
different subnets if your mask is 255.255.255.0) is
even more perplexing. This seems to point to the
fact that either there are incorrect static
configurations, multiple DHCP servers, or multiple
NAT routers on your network that are all confusing
the issue.

It looks like three different DHCP servers.

If he's got two computers on the net, and both are set to share internet, they'll be acting as routers and will try to be DHCP servers. This would not be a good thing. Or he might have three routers, such as one or two wired routers and a wireless.

Hello Tim and Charles, how are you doing?
First of all, thank you for taking the time to post. This is far harder than I thought at the begining, thus, it seems I cant give up now when I feel we are really close to solve this issue. By the moment feel like invited to a couple of pints each!!! Its a shame 'bout the distance anyway...

Well, I'll attend your very helpful advices this weekend, that it's when I can sit on the Mac without the phone ringing and clients rushing the ads and so...

Just one more question that keeps round my head:
According to everything said in the posts, how is that I can actually print from my G4/MacOS 9.2, being it on the very same network than the other devices?

Note that every machine (Macs and Printer) are attached to the router wich (in my humble opinon as I understand it) seems to administrate bandwith for everyone hooked to it...
I mean that the G4 can connect the printer and send work to get it printed as it ever did... If I change the default IP setting of the printer, would I be able to print from my G4 back again? And, aint it logic to think that there could be some good point in the communication between printer-router-G4? Maybe (for sure) I'm wrong and it has nothing to do with the rest. Or maybe that the very odd-one out is the G4! 😉

Anyway, thank you very much. I'll post back with news ASAP!!!

J.

Tom:
I am having the same problem. Did you managed how to solve it? Any suggestions?

Thank you.

Jose Antonio

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