Dual Layer Dvds

I have a Intel Core Duo iMAC White One, With a ATAPI Burner in it supports CD-Write: -R, -RW
DVD-Write: -R, -RW, +R, +R DL, +RW, I am running 10.5.3, My big question is, why when I rip a movie, and I want to back it up, onto a Dual Layer DVD, I always get errors, I get them with Toast 9 and I get them with any other Burning app I try and use, So what's the Problem here, I can burn any movie I rip at 4.7 Gb but any movie over that, and when I try and use a DVD+R DL it will not work, and as you can see this mac surely supports it, so what is the problem ? I know it's not the app I'm using, because anything that's 4GB works fine, so therefore it could not be the App/Software I'm using, thats not the Problem. I'm just stumped as to why this is not working, I haven't tried any data yet, so who knows if that will fail as well.

20 inch Intel Core Duo iMAC <> IPOD 30GB Video, Mac OS X (10.5.3)

Posted on Jun 11, 2008 3:46 PM

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Jun 11, 2008 6:46 PM in response to Anthony82

As already mentioned, burn speed and quality media are the key to successful burns. Not all media is high quality and making the issue even worse is the fact that there's a lot of counterfeiting going on too. Buy top quality media (I like Verbatim, TDK, and Sony though my wallet doesn't like Sony that much 🙂 for DL and for single layer I'll add Ritek to the list.) Some burners don't seem to burn all media at top speed. I've found that my MacBook's burner needs to be set down a speed notch for reliable dual layer media no matter what kind I use.

Jun 11, 2008 9:46 PM in response to dwb

Well I don't even get a chance to BURN, I put the Dual Layer disk in and I get a Laser Writer ERROR with Toast, and with this other Burning app I get another error, so it's as if it won't read the DISK or something I'm using WINDATA 8.5 DVD+R DL Disks, I mean it's Plastic so how is it different quality then a Sony, Don't they make them with the same plastic, I mean does Sony use a SUPER GOOD quality or what LOl, I mean I think you just pay for the NAME more then anything with these Disks. This is the Error I get -- THe Drive reported an error: sense key = MEDIUM ERROR sense code = 0x11 UNRECOVERED READ ERROR then it gives me another Mumbo Jumbo ERROR, So I don't get it, works fine with the same Disks, with Under 8 GB Movies, so is it just something wrong with my Burner or what ?

Jun 12, 2008 5:15 AM in response to Anthony82

I'm not an expert on optical drives and media and I have to admit that when the head tech were I work starts expounding on the topic my eyes glaze over pretty quickly. But what I do know is that there is a huge difference between media and it isn't just plastic it is the dye as well. Believe me, you aren't paying for just a name.

Your last sentence isn't clear. Are you saying that your burner works okay with media other than DL or are you saying that some projects using DL media will burn but others won't?

Is it a bad burner? Might be, might not. Try with a known high quality media - Windata isn't. Also try reducing the burn speed.

Jun 13, 2008 4:07 PM in response to dwb

Ah ok because I know for allot of Stuff out there, you DO pay for NAME, some quality stuff is out there. Oh and I ment my Burner Works with my 4.7 GB Cheap Windata disks Just the same way as if I bought a SONY disk, Works the same, looks the same, SO I'm not going to pay the extra money for something that's going to do the same in the end, ya know what I mean. I pay $9.99 for 50, If SONY was that much I would get them. But it's all about saving some money now. I think the problem has to be the ripping app for the mac that I'm using, something with the CODE in the movie, is making it not work, only thing I could think of. Seems anything over 4.7Gb Just doesn't want to work. And the slower speeds I know of, I always Burn everything, Data, movies, music, at the slowest Speeds, even thought it takes longer, I always do it that way to insure a good burn. Well right now I'm burning another Movie, I made off my Camera, and it seems to be working, will see if it actually finishes. Well thanks for all the help.

Jun 13, 2008 4:26 PM in response to Anthony82

Sure, whatever you say - but to be honest, your attitude sounds more Windows like than Mac. All that "You're paying for a name." Believe what you like but being in the business I know there is a difference. a) you've had trouble but refuse to believe it is the media and b) just keep going back every year or so to see if the discs are still readable.

Jun 15, 2008 5:57 PM in response to dwb

Well I am a MAC guy more, I honestly can't stand Windows, only like it for Online games, that's about it. And I'm not saying anything bad, like you are lying, I just say For most things you DO PAY for NAME, I didn't say for everything, and I'm not 1 out of like 10 that think that, try more like 1 out of 1000 probably even more, I do not know for a fact if SONY or whoever, uses Better Dyes, bla bla etc, I mean who knows maybe they do, but then again what if they didn't and it's the same Crap ?? did you ever think of that, Unless you work for SONY, or some other company, you really don't know then do you ? Sorry If I come off as an *** about it, my intentions are not to be one, just voicing my opinion. Well back to this Burning, I put a bunch of stuff on my IMAC I am currently using, and it's all from my SONY Video MiniDV Video Cam, it came out to 26GB total, so I put all the clips into MP4's to make them smaller and in good quality still, So I go to use Toast to burn the Clips to a Dual layer again, and what do ya know, same stuff happens, AND just to put the QUALITY to the test, I used a GOOD Disk, and what do ya know, Same Results, So I don't know : /, I know someone at work who uses the new MacPro, and burns the same stuff, sept he makes his Movies into a IMAGE file then burns it,( And no he doesn't use High Quality Stuff ) so I tried that as well, and NO GO. So I guess I'll just have to deal with it, But thanks anyway for the Help.

Jun 16, 2008 10:02 PM in response to Anthony82

Hello Anthony82

Quick question and a thought or two!

Why not back-up those movies to an External HD:

1. wouldn't that be a lot faster and simpler
2. you wouldn't have to compress them

I'm far from an expert here with the SONY MiniDV Video Camcorder or Toast, but it seems like something to do with the format or the size of the movie file your trying to burn?

In my case I have backed up a bunch of old tape camcorder movies, by first burning a DVD using a standard DVD recorder. Then with the help of [HandBrake|http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/21117] I convert the DVD images to MP4 which then can be imported to iMovie for editing and burning to DVD.

My end result is many back-ups of the movies:

1. the original tape
2. a standard DVD recorder disk
3. a MP4 file on the iMac HD for Quick and iMovie
4. a back-up on two different External HD's one on an up-to-dated clone, the other on TimeMachine
5. a finished DVD burned from iMovie

Note: for over two years now my superdrive has never had an issue rereading or burning Memorex DVD's

Dennis

Jun 22, 2008 12:13 PM in response to den.thed

I use Visual HUB to convert my DV Movie Files into MP4's works the same as Hand-break, and as for the MOVIES, these are Movies that are taken from the real DVD I want to put them on DVD again, not on a Hard Drive, If I had a nice FLAT screen TV and a DVI hook up for the Computer then I would say SURE i'll just keep them on the Hard-Drive and watch them that way, but unfortunately I don't have one so I need to get them on DVDs, and as for my Latest TRY at burning, same stuff happens, Check this out. User uploaded file
So is it these disks or what ? I have the same Brand disc's Windata and they are 4GB disks, they work like a Charm on everything and anything I burn, but these 8.5 dual Layer disks Just don't seem to work in my MAC I have no clue why ?? I just don't get why the 4.7 Gb same Brand disk's work and the same brand Dual Layer's do not, is there something wrong with my Dual layer BURNER, I have a intel white iMAC 2006 Year, got it in End of May 06 just before they came out with the Intel Core 2, It says I have the Dual layer Features, I mean the guy above said it could be Quality in Disks, But if that was the case then why do all my Other CHEAP quality disks that are not 8.5Gb work just fine, OOH and I've tried my OLD disk's as the guy above mentioned, he says try them out in a few years and see if the laser Still reads them, Well answer to that question, is YES they still read, So that's a Quick Response to that, I've never had a Problem with that. But thanks anyway for the Help

Jun 28, 2008 6:52 AM in response to Anthony82

I have this exact problem too and I do not buy cheap media. Doesn't matter if it's Toast, Finder or even in Windows through Boot Camp, I just can't find a way to burn dual layer DVDs. As Anthony said, I can also normally burn single layer DVDs and casual CDs. What could possibly be wrong? I already tried various media, both cheap and quite expensive, and none of them were ever burned successfully. Help!

Jul 1, 2008 9:18 PM in response to Community User

I have no clue what the problem could be, It's nice to know that I was right, that it's indeed not the BRAND of Disk you get, if you are having the same problem and even with High Quality disks, I haven't tried data yet on a Dual Layer, I'm sure that will fail as well : / I also tried this on my PC and does the same thing, or actually it just freezes the App and it stays on 99% at the end of burning it.

Jul 2, 2008 5:44 AM in response to Anthony82

Hold on a second. You say that the problem burning exists on more than one computer - one PC and one Mac? Or are you saying you are using the same Mac computer with both the Mac OS and Windows?

I ask because if you are having the same problem with two different computers - thusly two different drives - the only thing the failures have in common *are the media!*

Jul 3, 2008 12:14 PM in response to dwb

Well yes and No, I tried it on my PC with Burning a Dual Layer movie, Onto a Windata DISK 8.5 It worked till it got to the END, much further then the MAC got, Then it just stopped, maybe It would have let it sit longer it would have finished who know's, but With my iMAC I've tried it forever with 4.7gb disks worked like a charm until today, just burned a Movie, and now it wont even read any blank DVDs, and NOO IT"S NOT THE MEDIA like you all think, Check out this POST from someone else --

( In my Disk Recording Log I am getting the message of "Burn error: 0x8002006D The device failed to calibrate the laser power level for this media. Power calibration area error". I have tried Maxwell, Memorex, and HP disk so far with the same results. )

So you see it's not the brand, if this guy tried all of them, then if it's the MEDIA! like you all say, why has it not worked Hmmmm ??

Not to knock on Apple I LOVE them, but They have the BEST OS but Fail to get Quality Parts for there Computers, i've had problems with screens many of times, and now with this Burner, COME ON 😟 APPLE

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