Anyone using Stylus RMX with Logic? Do you understand "grooves"?

I got a copy of Stylus RMX and am trying to get my head around it. In particular, I'm trying to figure out how to get more than one groove on a single track.

For example, I'd like to have 4 beats of one groove followed by 4 beats of a related groove, then another, and so on.

However, I've discovered that once I have dragged a single groove on to a track (which looks like it created a region with MIDI data in it), then if I click on another groove in Stylus RMX, the region I previously dragged into a drag seems to now trigger the NEW groove, and the old one is lost.

It's as if those regions do nothing more than trigger whatever groove is currently selected for the length of the region.

I don't see how I can create a full track and get multiple grooves on it. I understand how to create up to 8 separate tracks, each on a different channel and assign a different groove (in RMX) to each channel but that would still only gives me 8 grooves, and I would have to waste 8 tracks to do this.

There must be a better way but I can't see it.

The knowledgebase on their site is not helpful. The video tutorial for drag/drop seems to only have one groove per track as well. This seems like a very serious limitation. What am I missing?

Thanks,
David

Mac OS X (10.5.4)

Posted on Jul 12, 2008 8:00 PM

21 replies

rico3.5

Level 1

14 points

Jul 13, 2008 4:23 PM in response to dhjdhj

Sure. RMX will also act as a basic drum module. You could use a separate instance for the crashes. I guess this doesn't help if you're trying to get it all done with one instance of Stylus.

Jul 13, 2008 9:27 PM in response to dhjdhj

I don't see how I can create a full track and get multiple grooves on it.

If you'd like to use multiple grooves from a suite in a single track, use Groove Menu mode. There are extensive video tutorials on the support site to describe Groove Menu and Slice Menu modes.

- Glenn

Jul 13, 2008 9:44 PM in response to dhjdhj

your gonna have 8 tracks to play with, you need more create another instance of RMX, you'll have 16.

You could create variations by modifying midi data. For instance the toms, drag the rmx midi file into the appropriate logic track.. now start manipulating, the note positions, of the three toms. You have complete control over the timing, drumpieces that are hit..

Or take a snare midi groove, copy it and chop that up a bit with some 8. and 16ths. View the Stylus videos, they are very informative, This is a very powerful device, and it's not that hard to use, just requires some playing around time.

dhjdhj Author

Level 2

194 points

Jul 14, 2008 7:44 PM in response to Glenn Olander

THAT'S IT!!!! Thank you so much!

Groove Menu.... don't know why I didn't notice that.

MAFMusic

Level 1

29 points

Jul 14, 2008 7:48 PM in response to Community User

I recently upgraded my dual g5 for a mac pro because the logic board on the g5 failed and it would cost about $1000 to replace. So I decided to upgrade now rather than sometime next year as I originally planned.

I am a hobbyist so the dual quad core is really overkill for me, but I must say that the performance difference is pretty amazing within Logic.

Anyway the dual g5 is a great machine and odes the job.

Stylus RMX works perfectly on the Intel machine.
Much more responsive.

I spoke with a Spectrasonics person, and they stated that Atmosphere is not inherently compatible, and requires a "wrapper" which really slows it down.

However Atmosphere is apparently pretty much defunct anyway.

Aparently they will soon be coming out with a new much more comprehensive plugin, in which the atmosphere stuff will only be a small portion. And it will be a universal binary, totally compatible with Intel and G5 machines.

And current owners of atmosphere will be a discount towards the purchase.

Just FYI.

Jul 14, 2008 9:47 PM in response to Mark Styles

Hello,

I did everything as you recommended above but after I dragged grooves from Stylus RMX to my Logic Pro 8 tracks I got a different sound - the pattern and tempo have changed completely. When I pushed play button in Stylus again - everything seemed to be fine again. I can't fine the place where I can place a midi file to the appropriate measures (1-4, 9-11)
May be I need to configure something in Logic MIDI preferences? I would appreciate any advice from you!

Thank you!

Vlad

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Anyone using Stylus RMX with Logic? Do you understand "grooves"?