Video Filter Not Working

So I finally got Final Cut Express, and had a little bit of experience using it back in college. But now I'm having issues. I can't get any of the video filters to work, the filter I'm most concerned with is the Color Corrector. I really wanted to use this tool for a film I'm putting together. But no matter how I try to add this filter and others to my film, they don't take affect. I've seen tutorials all over the place that show the effects in real time in the viewer as the changes were made... I'm not getting that, **** I'm not even getting the effects to work at all???? Is it a settings thing? Or maybe a video file type?

Any suggestions would be wildly appreciated.

iMac, Mac OS X (10.5.4)

Posted on Aug 27, 2008 7:12 PM

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Aug 28, 2008 3:42 PM in response to augiecrazy8

Please confirm that you have applied the filter to a clip in the timeline and that you have opened that clip in the timeline and that your are using the controls in the viewer for the clip in the timeline and that the playhead in the timeline is over the clip with the filter. If this is all the case you will probably need to a do full reinstallation of the application.

Aug 29, 2008 4:47 AM in response to Tom Wolsky

step by step:

drag the filter onto one of your clips in the timeline
move the playhead over that clip so that it is displayed in the Canvas window
double click the clip (in the timeline) to load it into the Viewer window
in the Viewer window, change to the Filters tab (or Color Corrector tab if applicable)
adjust the settings ...

... do you see the changes happening in the Canvas?

Aug 30, 2008 3:37 PM in response to Andy Mees

Unfortunately I'm not at my computer this weekend (traveling for Labor Day). So I can't try to ensure that I'm taking each of these steps exactly as mentioned, which I thought I was doing in the first place. But I wouldn't be surprised if it was my fault.

Another question though, this particular project was imported from iMovie, and brought all the clips in .dv format. Could this have something to do with it? I've been reading other forums that mention FCE & FCP have some goofy quirks when editing .dv formats. Should I change some settings with codecs or things along those lines?

Aug 30, 2008 9:03 PM in response to Tom Wolsky

I had this confusion a few years ago when I was first learning Final Cut Express. I was not first selecting the clip that I wanted a filter to operate on, before fooling with the filters. The filters don't work if you don't highlight (select) a clip first.

In other words: STEP ONE: DOUBLE CLICK ON THE CLIP that you want to apply filters to--that lets FCE know which clip you want to make the changes to. When you double-click on the clip, it appears in the Viewer window. THEN when you choose a filter, that filter will appear in the tabs of the Viewer window. Rip the Filters tab off (i.e. put the cursor on the tab, hold down the mouse button, and drag the tab off) of the Viewer window to form an independent window with it, if you want to, and move this Filters window off to the side somewhere and tweak the filter on it, so you can watch the effect on the video in the Viewer.

Just putting the playhead over a clip and then trying to apply filters to that clip is like making changes to text in a word processor without first highlighting the text that you want to change. Nothing will happen without first highlighting some text, or in the case of FCE, nothing will happen to the video without first highlighting (selecting) a clip.

Your trouble may be as simple as that.

Sep 1, 2008 3:46 PM in response to Andy Mees

I appreciate all the help... I understand the program, and I've done everything that has been advised. I'm thinking it's the DV format, as mentioned by Tom Wolsky. Although, Tom did say that it should have no affect on the video, but in my case it seems to be having an affect ONLY on the ability to add filters. I have 500 or so clips logged right now, all of which were imported from iMovie as that was the first program I used to begin creating the video sequences I'm working on. Does anyone have any advice regarding how to efficiently change the format of all 500+ clips I have logged?

Sep 1, 2008 4:31 PM in response to augiecrazy8

You need to convert your .dv clips to a format with which FCE can work natively. After doing so, you won't be working with the .dv files any more; you'll be working with .mov files. I don't know any way to maintain the EDL info.

A better approach might be to Export the whole project from iMovie so it's FCE-ready, then import the whole thing into FCE and create sub-clips from there. Here are the iMovie settings to use (this is from v6; I assume the same choices are still available in v8):
Export to QuickTime using Expert Settings:
Export Movie to QuickTime Movie:
Compression - DV-DVCPRO-NTSC
Frame rate 29.97
Compressor Quality Best
Audio AIFF @48kHz

The resulting QT file will be importable into FCE.

Sep 1, 2008 6:20 PM in response to augiecrazy8

Why are you trying to work with avi files? FCE uses QuickTime files at specific frame sizes and rates, as has been mentioned before. With all the switching, you have quite possibly goobered up your FCE preferences. Whenever FCE is behaving strangely, trashing the preferences is a good place to start. Here's how to do it:
http://www.fcpbook.com/Misc1

I say that because I just experimented with a dv file exported from iMovie and the filters (Color Corrector and Pond Ripple were the ones I tried) worked fine. Once again, here's the procedure:
Place a clip in the timeline.
Park the timeline playhead in the clip; the clip needs to be visible in the Canvas.
Double click on the clip from the Timeline to open it in the Viewer.
Select Effects>Video Filters> and choose the filter you want to use.

Click the tab of the filter in the Viewer window.
Adjust the parameters of the filter and you should see the results in the Canvas.

If that doesn't work for you and you've trashed your preferences as described above, the next step is probably to uninstall FCE and reinstall it. There's a specific procedure to follow which you can probably find via a forum search.

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