Logic 8.02 Mac Pro TDM Digi 96 i/0 OSX 10.5.5 - HEEELP!!!

Anyone running Logic 8.02 in TDM successfully on a Mac Pro?

I've reinstalled and checked everything for months now!

Still no sound from EXS (TDMAux) or any Dtdm / ESB . .. only audio . .

Help!

Mac Pro 2x3GHz DualCore Xeon, Mac OS X (10.5.5), Digi 96 i/o, Magma Xpansion Chassi

Posted on Sep 29, 2008 3:50 AM

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Sep 30, 2008 6:16 PM in response to Kriller

You're not the only two! : ) I'm running Logic Pro 8, DAE/TDM just fine, but in 10.4.11 w/ PT 7.4.

I have three problems and while they are pretty big, I can work around them:

a) If I process anything in the sample edit window using an Audisuite plug-in, Logic crashes after I try to audition change. I have to bounce everything. Sometimes even Logic DSP edits in the sample edit window will result in no audio change being heard. Only after repeated attempts at playing the file back, the edit kicks in and you can hear the change. Like a "Gain Change" for example.

b) Surround works but is inverted and somewhat erratic, making it, well, not work. I guess.

c) Some "ghosting" of other files during playback after a fade is applied. Simply stopping Logic and starting again solves this.

BTW, I've been using Logic TDM/DAE for about 12 years now too! Kinda shocking they didn't clean it up more before releasing it. Seems like it's just house keeping in the programming.

I'll try and help where I can.

Oct 11, 2008 12:12 AM in response to Kriller

Kriller wrote:
Yeah . . wow . . it's pathetic how they've abandoned TDM users!
I've been working professionally with Logic on Digi hardware for 12 years,
and have had nothing but problems the last year.
Can't go Native because of too many open projects and lack of backwards comp,
but it sure is tempting sometimes. .

So, out of all Logic users, we are the only ones still using TDM? 🙂


Sadly - I'm another emigre ..... after 12 years I HAVE jumped ship successfully. Moved over from TDM to Naked (... sorry Native ..... although that's how it felt at first!)

I compose and produce large 5.1 movie scores ("large" as in real orchestras /real choirs /sampler and midi work) My guess is I must be one of Logics most heavy duty users. Sadly I did find Apple had no interest in helping me when I thought about the move over.

So when I did make the move from Protools hardware this year, it was not without fear and trepidation, but was offered a film with budget for orchestra sessions and ancillary musicians that I would then produce in my own studio together with my usual army of samples and midi work.

I talked to both Peter Gabriel and Thomas Newman's people ..... Real World Studio being close to my county neighbours. They all use Logic but NONE of them do anything "professional" without either exporting everything into Protools or using Logic "just for the midi work"

Nobody "professional" that I've discussed this with (- & WOULD LOVE TO BE CONTRADICTED NOW BY ANYONE ELSE USING LOGIC NAKED ON BIG PROJECTS) will own up to using JUST Logic 8 and a big Mac to do EVERYTHING ........ WHY?

It DOES work!

However, I'll be working in a studio which will record my orchestra sessions on Protools - partly I guess because of the economic factors of the desperate financial investment .... studios really do have to find a way to reap back investment and it's getting very difficult.

A large studio already has huge investment invested in hardware and they need to be able to charge their clients. Quite understandably.

There is though a big "BUT" ... maybe one issue ..... and this is the difference in sample accuracy and phase recording on Protools over Logic. I've been told to keep my orchestra recordings (which I will take all mic positions away on hard drives and mix on Logic in my studio) "live" ..... ie. Not do submixes in Logic and then re-import.

SO A QUESTION TO THIS FORUM. Does anyone have any frontline experience of (aside from coping with latency and plugin quality issues) the difference in phase/sample accuracy etc ("quality") between recording and mixing within Protools over doing the same in Logic Naked?

Best
Dick

Oct 11, 2008 6:49 AM in response to Silicon Audio Labs

6!

Using HD3 on a Quad G5 running 10.4.11 and PT 7.4. Haven't tried Leopard and the latest 7.4 yet as it's working pretty well at the moment. Still get those hard freezes - where you have to shut everything down for a few minutes - every other day or so. Except for the timing issues between the native and TDM tracks, I think it's still better than running native only. It might be for sentimental reasons as I have loved working with Logic and TDM since 1995 or so.

Stone

Oct 14, 2008 5:20 PM in response to Kriller

Anyone experiencing ghost playback of wrong files? I've narrowed my issue down to when I have lots of fades applied especially to files at the beginning of the song.

I believe it's the fade file getting whacked out all the time. There used to be the Audio/Delete Fade File in the audio window but now that's gone.

I have Core Audio off and TDM w/ DTDM on. Anyone else have this happen with many edits using crossfade and fade ins/outs?

I can get it to settle a little by stopping playback and restarting but that's getting a bit tedious. Any other work around?

Oct 16, 2008 2:56 PM in response to Kriller

Kriller wrote:
Anyone running Logic 8.02 in TDM successfully on a Mac Pro?

I've reinstalled and checked everything for months now!

Still no sound from EXS (TDMAux) or any Dtdm / ESB . .. only audio . .

Help!


Hi,

I just bought a Mac Pro 2.88 GHZ 8 core, and an Pro Tools HD systeom to run it in.

I will report back as to how it works. I still do not know what operating system comes with this Mac.

Cheers

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