Pros and Cons of zeroing a new hard drive.

What are the benefits of zeroing a new hard drive instead of just erase? How long will it take to zero a 1TB drive if I decide to go that way?

Mac Pro 2.66 5gb ram, Mac OS X (10.4.11)

Posted on Apr 17, 2009 1:15 PM

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Apr 18, 2009 6:30 AM in response to Cindy

I was estimating a full 6-8 hrs which is why I said over night.

And Disk Warrior only reads the SMART status, so yes, instant.
Did you look in Console - System log to see what it wrote there?
That will tell how many spare blocks it shipped with.

Only TechTool Pro does a full scan (media scan).

Even Disk Utility on the bottom of the screen will say "SMART status" but that is almost worthless (pass/fail). Google - those folks with 10's of thousands of hard drives and needing to know the turnover rate, did an indepth study of drive reliability, prediction, how to know. And they claim that when a drive starts to show reduction in the spare blocks is when the drive is failing.

Windows really has better tools, or WD does and only comes in Windows version, for testing and repairing the surface.

By partitioning a drive first into four segments, then each segment can be zeroed, and the segment, about 230GB each, should take an hour or maybe less.

The same things happens when trying to test 8GB or more of memory with Memtest, how long, how many read/write cycles to run.

Apr 18, 2009 8:28 AM in response to The hatter

It took approx. 3.5 hours which isn't bad. I was unable to find what you suggested in the log file.

I think I just won't sweat it. Out of all the drives I have had I think I have had only one or two fail and they were very very old.

I know there was a difference between capacity and available but I attributed that to the few files it had to create.

Apr 18, 2009 8:39 AM in response to Cindy

When you open the Console it will usually automatically open system.log on its own, or you can open it. And newest is at the bottom.

Any time you have Disk Warrior open, just go to the Diagnostic tab and click on manual. That writes to the log again.

1TB (1000GB, not 1024) has fomatted capactity of 933GB. Then plan for allowing 10-15% free space as "overhead" for Mac HFS+ and that it doesn't deal well when free space gets below 10%. Nor does Windows but it alerts and has ability to maintain a quota system.

A drive will change and improve some 3% during the first week depending on use.

Drives like use, what they don't like is variation in temperature, going from A to B and back to A over and over causes fatigue and wear and can cause tracks to 'move' slightly. Expansion and contraction. And lastly, vibration.

A drive that takes too long to zero is an indication of problems or just buggy firmware.

Seems odd that Disk Utility can't do a "chkdsk" and doesn't have the option of its own to try to map out bad sectors. Or tell it to run the command "diskutil" on its own in Single User Mode on next startup. You have to boot from another drive or manually run the command.
Or, that OS X really demands and needs 3rd party disk repair utility to begin with. Meaning, there seems to be some weaknesses in Mac HFS+ stability and integrity?

Apr 18, 2009 8:51 AM in response to The hatter

There is a lot in the system log. I just couldn't find anything that would tell me how many blocks it had.

It actually formats to 931.5 gig. Seems when I was looking on the web trying to find out about this drive I read 930 gig so I'm probably doing fine. I did notice it had less files on it after I zeroed the thing. I think it started with 10 and wound up with 9. Thought that was odd.

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