Wrong Tape Format

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Wrong Tape Format

Hello - a project was filmed by a shooter, and I was given the Quicktime files to edit in FCP. I put together an edited project, then tried exporting it to my Panasonic camera, and it starts and stops, then I get a msg. on my camera that says 'Wrong Tape Format'. What is this, and how can I get this project exported? Thanks very much...

Kristina

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Posted on May 29, 2009 8:18 PM

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Answer 1

Studio X

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Jun 8, 2009 4:03 PM in response to Kristina Latour

DVCAM is a tape recording format that is internal to the VTR/camera. It is not a codec. It is DV25 simply read from or written to a faster moving tape. FCP doesn't have a setting for it so I don't see how it would give a flying fig ...

fwiw - DVCAM was a Sony thing. Panasonics may be able to play it but can't record it. Canons do not record or play it. it.

Is the camera set to record LP or do you have a DVCAM recorded tape in the panasonic?

x

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Answer 2

May 29, 2009 8:31 PM in response to Kristina Latour

What codec is your Timeline? What recording codec does the Panasonic camera use?

-DH

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Answer 3

Jun 7, 2009 11:46 AM in response to David Harbsmeier

Hello - I'm not sure about either - how can I find out?

I've never had a problem importing anything else to my camera, and have never seen this 'Wrong Tape Format' msg... Could it be that maybe it was filmed in HD? And my camera is SD? If that's the case, how can I get it imported?

Many thanks...

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Answer 4

Jun 7, 2009 1:30 PM in response to Kristina Latour

Kristina...

Control-click on the clip in the browser window and get item properties. What format is the clip? Also, click on the sequence and COMMAND-Zero it and tell us what format the sequence is too.

CaptM

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Answer 5

Jun 8, 2009 10:25 AM in response to Captain Mench

Ah, ok, so under Item Properties, it's 29.97 fps video rate; 720 x 480 Frame size; 48. KHz aud rate.

Then, under the COMMAND-Zero function, it says 720 x 480 frame size; NTSC DV (3:2) is the aspect ratio, and audio settings it's 48 kHz rate; 16-bit depth.

So, what knowledge can I gain from this that would be helpful? Thanks! I learned something new here!

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Answer 6

Jun 8, 2009 12:26 PM in response to Kristina Latour

Well, it tells you that some of your settings match. But you should include 'Compressor Type'...'Field dominance' wouldn't hurt.

You also need to give us some info on your camera as requested earlier. What make/model/recording format(s).

K

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Answer 7

Jun 8, 2009 2:09 PM in response to Kevan D. Holdsworth

Compressor type is DV/DVCPRO - NTSC; Field Dominance is Lower (Even), in both the sequence, and the clip.

Camera is Panasonic PV-GS320; Format is Mini DV, Consumer- SD format. I do not know what it was shot on. Hope this is helpful, thanks!

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Answer 8

Shane Ross

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Jun 8, 2009 2:21 PM in response to Kristina Latour

Well...here might be a thought. There is a difference between DVCAM and MiniDV. DVCAM plays back slighly faster than MiniDV, to ensure fewer dropouts. What will be 60 min on a DV tape with MiniDV is 40 min with DVCAM. And if you have DVCAM footage, it will NOT play out to a MiniDV camera. I had this issue when I shot DVCAM on my GL1 and then tried to play it out to a smaller DV camera when my GL1 was out of the country. Didn't work. I got the same message.

So I think you have DVCAM and not MiniDV, and cannot play that out to that camera. Issue is that they are the same data rate....sorta. THey are slightly different. And to this day I haven't figured out how to output DVCAM to miniDV. That is why I bought my DSR-11. Well, ONE reason.

Shane

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Answer 9

Jun 8, 2009 3:06 PM in response to Shane Ross

You mean, you think that I have DVCAM footage from the original shooter, and that won't export to miniDV? Any ideas on what I can do then, w/this footage? I need to save it for possible editing later... Ok, thanks!

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Answer 10

Jun 8, 2009 3:20 PM in response to Kristina Latour

You should be able to simply drop the edited (DVCam) footage into a DV-NTSC sequence, render, export/lay to tape. Should see very little, if any, quality loss.

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Answer 11

Jun 8, 2009 3:30 PM in response to Kevan D. Holdsworth

I thought that's what I already did. I saved the edited footage into a Final Cut Pro Movie file - didn't seem to need any rendering, then, clicked on Print to Video, and it would start to look like it was exporting to my camera, but then would stop, then got the 'Wrong Tape Format' msg...thanks.

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Answer 12

Jun 8, 2009 4:43 PM in response to Studio X

Studio X wrote:
do you have a DVCAM recorded tape in the panasonic?

x

or an hdv tape? ie one that has been used for hdv.

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Answer 13

Jun 8, 2009 8:56 PM in response to J S Langham

I do not have an hdv tape, or DVCAM tape -- just a 'regular' miniDV tape, in the Panasonic, and yes, it's set to LP to record...thanks...

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Answer 14

Shane Ross

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Jun 8, 2009 8:58 PM in response to Kristina Latour

it's set to LP to record...thanks...

Ahhh...change it to SP. LP might be the issue.

Shane

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Answer 15

Jun 9, 2009 11:20 AM in response to Shane Ross

I just tried it - still not working. I'm having the same issues in that it starts off fine, then at about 15 sec. into it, it cuts out, then cuts back in, then out again... Then when I go to rewind it back to where it started, I still get the 'Wrong Tape Format' message...

Message was edited by: Kristina Latour

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