What??? No new Touch with a camera??

Sorry, this makes no sense. The cost of a iPod Touch is $300; the cost of an iPhone is $2000+, because you need to pay AT&T, too. If Apple put a camera in the lower costing Nano, it certainly makes sense to put one in the Touch.

No purchase for me either. Was getting set to buy a Touch, but without a radio at the very least, it's a no-go. Sorry Apple.

For all those who are complaining about a lack of a 'camera' (and I use the term 'camera' very loosly) in the new touches, I suggest you consider 'real' pocket video cameras that produce HD resolution images rather than the low quality VGA resolution camera in the nano. I have a weather resistant Kodak Zx1 which is about the size of my touch and produces excellent quality video and stills. There are several other cameras about the same size; see especially the new Kodak Zi8.

There are now some reviews on the web comparing the quality.

Oh, Shippey, stop being so practical! 😉

When the "N" is activated, or if, it won't make any difference in speeds on the Touch.
The throughput on B/G already is faster than it can utilize, and having N is overkill.
It would be better in that routers that aren't dual-band can be set for N and all devices can then use it without the bottleneck of B/G compatibility mode.
If one also reads stories on the web, it appears Apple pulled the camera from the Touch due to quality issues of the modules.
So, rather than put out a crappy camera-equipped Touch, they decided to wait.
Hmmm, which is the better idea?

It appears Apple pulled the camera from the Touch due to quality issues of the modules.

I can believe that! The test reports on the nano video quality don't make it sound like something I'd want to consider. Now if someone can come out with a way to add HD quality video to a touch, that would be another matter.

And you know they will...2012 or so.
But alas, the world ends in 2012, so I'm not waiting! 😉

did you guys hear they left a space for a camera? (engadget)

they left that spot there so it would be a lot easier when the next gen comes out, but what do I recall Steve Jobs saying??

"there is no need to add more stuff, it's a gaming machine"

pathetic

dbyjazz wrote:
"there is no need to add more stuff, it's a gaming machine"

pathetic

Then perhaps what you really need is one of the other touch screen music players with a camera. Vote with your wallet.

I've got the upper hand--Apple needs to sell--I don't have to buy.

If you were Apple's only customer then that might have some effect, but you're not. There's millions of people who will be buying this latest iPod touch, despite it lacking some rumoured features.

Unfortunately, that is the drawback to reading rumour sites. Nothing is confirmed, so if the rumour sites get it wrong, and thousands of readers have got their hopes up for a rumoured feature which doesn't materialise, then people are bound to be disappointed. If nobody had heard that the iPod touch may be getting a camera, then nobody would be disappointed when it didn't.

Anyway, I went in to my local Apple Store today, and people were queuing up to buy them. I didn't - my 1st gen with 3.1.1 is doing me just fine for now.

I am going to buy the 64GB.
I've been using the 1G, 16GB since day-one, and I've been waiting only for 64GB.
Camera - don't care. I have one on the iPhone and barely use it.
I want an iPod for use as an iPod.
I've got cameras for that purpose.
Two-years of use, and now it goes to my son.
I just needed the capacity, and anything else it does is a bonus.