Google Talk and iChat Snow Leapord

Hi,

See here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jingle_%28protocol%29

The libjingle library, used by Google Talk to implement Jingle, has been released to the public under a BSD license. However, the version of the protocol implemented in libjingle differs from that published by the XMPP Software Foundation.

4:48 PM Saturday; October 31, 2009

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Im am a new Mac user, 1st week, so still having a few growing pains. However I have followed all directions in this tread as well as others, without being able to get iChat to work with friends using Google Talk. Is there an issue or a fix? Please help.....going crazy.

Hi,

There is no issue as iChat does not and is not designed to use the Google Protocols to Video chat.

Therefore there is nothing to fix.

There options.
TokBox allows you to Video Cross Platform in a web Browser and link to your Existing Buddy Lists.

MeBeam is site that allows Cross platform Video Chatting again in your Browser.



4:42 PM Sunday; November 1, 2009

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I set up gchat with iChat 5.0 last week, never got video to work, but text was working fine. Now it won't work at all. I opened it this week and it appears to log in fine, but none of my contacts show up. I've tried deleting the account and re-adding it. I've tried adding contacts, which makes them show up as offline even when I know they are online. I've tried turning on the automatically find server and port button. Any suggestions?

Hi,

Welcome to the  Discussions

Are you logged in to the Web Mail page as well ?



8:45 PM Wednesday; November 11, 2009

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Just change the port number from 5223 to 443. Then it works. Of course, make sure you're using SSL and putting @gmail.com at the end of your username.

I figured this out by doing:

2009-Mac-Mini:~ gregoryw$ telnet talk.google.com 5223
Trying 209.85.163.125...
^C
2009-Mac-Mini:~ gregoryw$ telnet talk.google.com 5222
Trying 209.85.163.125...
^C
2009-Mac-Mini:~ gregoryw$ telnet talk.google.com 5220
Trying 209.85.163.125...
^C
2009-Mac-Mini:~ gregoryw$ telnet talk.google.com 443
Trying 209.85.163.125...
Connected to talk.l.google.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
^CConnection closed by foreign host.
2009-Mac-Mini:~ gregoryw$

hi guys,
i m using mac 10.5.
in my ichat my friend stored his gmail account.

I want to copy that password.But unfortunately copy is disabled.
Can anyone give me the solution to enable copy password.

thanks.

westwest... is this fix supposed to fix the video issue with ichat and google talk?

Hi,

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iChat needs the Google iD to end either with @gmail.com or @googlemail .com depending on what the User name actually is.

You Google name is based on th Account name and this can be Either @gmail.com or @googlemail.com

Apple's Mail App does not seem to mind which you use.

iChat does.

The way to tell is to see which version shows at the top of a Google Page when you login to access the Web Mail page.



7:56 PM Wednesday; November 18, 2009

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Hi,

Welcome to the  Discussions

I can not think of any good reason for you to have a "friend's " password.



8:08 PM Wednesday; November 18, 2009

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westwest888 wrote:
Just change the port number from 5223 to 443.

This worked for me. But I'm also at my parents house with a LinkSys router and Comcast instead of home with my Time Capsule and WideOpenWest. Perhaps this might be related to the problems others are experiencing.

You are being quite confusing as early in the post you directed people to make changes and implied that maybe settings would allow iChat users to video chat with GTalk users now you are recanting that and saying what I thought all along that it was not compatible. However users are claiming it worked prior top SL so which one is it are people crazy and it never worked or is it broken since SL upgrade.

Hi MikeDV,

The Original Poster makes it quite clear they are talking iChat to iChat with A Google ID to other who have Jabber accounts.

He also says his AIM based Name to the Apple Test Accounts is not working.

Over several posts I basically told them to check their Settings and how they had entered their GoogleTalk ID, including a Pic that showed Port and Server Name.

To the Second poster I explained why in iChat 3 the Server Name could get changed (based on an iChat action of pulling the ID suffix as the Server Name) and why it should be checked.
Although it is a Jabber server in iChat 4 and 5 it needs listing as Google Account to stop the Server name change.

Then ndeguzman and sbr929 both posted, one of which I missed, although the first I have listed here was in fact a later post after the explanation to sbr929 about alternatives to iChat with a GoogleTalk ID as iChat can not Video chat to the Web page Chat or to GoogleTalk App on a PC.

To Kentzo I confirmed this and explained about the Google Jingle Library issue and gave a Link.

The bit I seem to have failed to make clear in this thread is that no matter which Buddy List you start from (Bonjour, AIM based or Jabber based) iChat will use the same Video Codecs to make a Video chat work.

Obviously it is compatible with AIM and iChat, so Bonjour Chats (Mac to Mac) and Apple IDs and AIM names can do Video Chats (Mac to Mac or PC)

If the other end has iChat and a Jabber account including GoogleTalk IDs they can also Video Chat to each other. (It's iChat to iChat rather than Jabber to Jabber)

The other thing you can not do is chat from Jabber/Google Buddy list to an AIM/Apple one, as the AIM Servers do not link in to the Jabber ones. (Some Jabber Servers run what are called Transports that can do a Link at their end to AIM (Or MSN or Yahoo) that can get your AIM based Buddies in your Jabber Buddy List)

Unfortunately although the premise of the Discussion Boards are that one person asks a question but what in fact happens is others join in with "Me Too"s that do not always match the Original Question leading to a drift like the one in this one.

As to why their IDs worked in Leopard but not Snow Leopard...
I would have to know how they Upgraded.
I can see some may have preferred a Fresh Install and a manual entry of their iChat Data.

Summary,
For some chats it has never worked (iChat to Non iChat Jabber based Buddies)
For others it has (AIM based names or iChat to iChat).
In this thread I did miss off making the distinction between the two types as clear as it could have been.



8:14 PM Thursday; December 3, 2009

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"so what i did is create a jabber account, add that jabber account in ichat, then add the google talk users i want to chat with in the jabber profile, now i can do video chat with them though ichat"


^^will this actually work?

Hi,

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iChat uses the same Protocols to do any Video or Audio chat with another user/Buddy.

So on the Jabber/GoogleTalk side the other person has to be using iChat.

The AIM Application on PCs uses a set of Video and Audio codecs (protocols) that are compatible with iChat.

Jabber applications on PCs or Macs that can do Video and Audio Chats do not use the same Protocols (Codecs).

If you have a second or more computers on your Home LAN then they have to be either Macs or use a Application on a PC that can do Bonjour connection AND use the same Codecs as iChat to be able to Video and Audio chat.

So.
Your Buddy can be on a Mac and use s Jabber ID/GoogleTalk Name in iChat and you will be able to Video and Audio Chat to them if you are also using a Jabber/GoogleTalk ID.

Jabber is a collection of different public and private servers.
There are also many Jabber applications (or ones that also do Jabber).
There is no central Jabber Company that is developing software so these many apps are at different stages and offer different features.

GoogleTalk have developed the file that contains the Video and Audio Codecs called jinglelib in a slightly different direction to other versions of Jinglelib which means that the GoogleTalk app on a PC can not always video chat to other Jabber apps that can video.
See here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jingle_%28protocol%29

To answer your question - It depends on what your Buddy is using.
Basically PCs are are a No from iChat to a Jabber Application (including GoogleTlak on a PC)



9:37 PM Wednesday; January 13, 2010

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