Does anyone have photos of a good ACD 23"?

Couldn't it be that all 23" displays have these problems (except, of course, the unforgivable pink tint)? Not just Apple's? And that you're sort of expecting the impossible? (Seeing that Samsung's panel also has similar problems: just check the RGB values of Simeons pics).

when Ibought mine dude at the apple sotre firewired me a color sync file for the 23" on my powerbook wich was later transfered to my G5 it worked great!

Hi Teg,

I have a Sony SDM-P234 and it works beautifully. I have no means of posting a picture as I have no .mac or domain name. I got the monitor as it was released a few months ago and I absoutley love it.

David

No LCD (23" or otherwise) has perfectly even backlighting. (Which I assume is considered the problem here.) A very good LCD will generally have all values across the surface of the screen within <15% of each other, the edges often being darker than the center.

From what I understand of these posts the primary complaint about the 23" ACD is not the uneven backlighting, but uneven colour consistency across the screen.

Michael said" I understand that LCD's are just not as consistent as CRT's despite Apple's marketing... "

That's true. Apple marketing is usually rather bold in its assertions 🙂
Maybe this Eizo would fit your needs: http://www.eizo.com/products/graphics/cg220/index.asp.

Or else it looks like the Samsung / Dell panels do not have the yellowish colouring problem the LG-Philips 23" panels seem to have.

(Although I have to say it does not bother me too much. If it did, the 30" would be a nice if admittedly expensive way out...

I took back my first 23" (510) which did not have the pink tint but did have the yellow/lack of contrast edges and blue band and got a replacement (a 512 - so built less than 2 weeks ago).

And guess what - the new one has identical problems - as did every display on show at the apple store in Regent Street, London. I am now completely convinced that there is no such thing as an unaffected 23" display - although it seems they have fixed the pink.

The attitude of the staff at the store was interesting - the look of fake surprise when I said I was unhappy with the colour was classic "I haven't heard that before but you do get the occasional dud" and without further ado or even opening the box of the one I brought back I was given a new one - the latest model they had. ( If I take this one back I may just put a couple of bricks in the box!!)

Truth is though I am not sure I can face carrying the monitor into the middle of London and back - again. It's a two hour round trip and my arm still hurts from the last time. (Thank god it wasn't a CRT) And of course they would not let me try the monitor out in the shop first - probably because they know I would open every box they had in the vain search for a good one.

If it stays as it is I will probably (reluctantly) live with it as long as it doesn't get worse over time. At the risk of sounding like Goldilocks, the fact is I need a new monitor and the 20" is too small and the 30" is too big and the 23" is just right - or as it turns out - just wrong.

I feel sorry for the people that go and buy one without the knowledge gained by reading these threads - at least I knew what to look for and to ask for the newest model - I was told that they still have/are selling monitors manufactured in mid 04 - complete with pink tint.

I know some people have posted that they are happy with their display and I am happy for them - but I do not believe that those displays are any better than mine - it's just that some people have a less sensitive/critical eye. No offense intended. If you disagree prove it with a picture.

I have used Apple computers for over 12 years. I am on my 7th mac, my 5th monitor and my 3rd iPod. I have always loved Apple and and everything I have bought from them until now. I feel let down by their whole attitude to this 23" issue. Sticking your fingers in your ears, going la la la and hoping everyone will shut up and go away while taking their money is not what I expect from Apple.

Thanks to Michael for starting this thread (and others) keeping it going and being so reasonable - I agree wholeheartedly with your position - the fact is the marketing and the product do not match up.

PS Just thought I'd mention that I had a look at the 30" while I was in the store and although the colour consistency was much better the blue bars in iTunes also disappeared near the left hand edge.

thought i would post photos of my ACD 30-inch for comparison:

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Macworld.com and Macuser.co.uk have reviewed large LCD monitors and the SONY P234 has looked good, but the price is usually referred to as a down side ...but here in Australia they have just dropped a few hundred dollars and are now on a par with the HP L2335 (...which would be my second pick). Also like the implied benefits of the LACIE 321.

If Apple is not going to admit a problem with the current 23" ACD then lets stop worrying about it and buy one that works from someone else.

nevermind.

Phil,

I don't think many people in this or any other forum could afford the Eizo CG220. It is the only LCD or CRT screen on the market that covers the entire Adobe 98 RGB color space, and as a consequence it's over $6000 if I remember right. Also, I believe in a couple years, you will regret this purchase because there will be at least a half dozen screens that will have the same ability but at half the price : )

I will be getting an Eizo CG210, which is a slightly less capable model in terms of gamut but still far more capable than most other LCDs (including Apple's) and it has a swivel screen capability so that you can view vertical photos and layouts on the fly. Very cool and about $2700.

Dan, that's a nice monitor you're getting.
I for one am quite happy with my ACD 23" now, even if it's colours are not quite up to the Eizo standard. At least Apple have a nicer design 🙂

My Screen isn't to bad in normal conditions and profiling with the spyder takes care of the pink hue but when I turn off all lights and send screen to black I can see heaps of pink light casting all over the left side and yellow on the right. It just looks like it's leaking colored light.

Hi Michael Scaramozzino,

I had my 23" exchanged 4 (yeah, four!) times. The last one was quite good but still had the washed out/pink left issues, only much less than my first one. It took me a very long time to decide, but I couldn't live with it.
So I bought a 30" ACD and it's absolutely perfect. No dead pixels, none of the issues the 23" had. I had both besides each other for a while to compare them!

I don't think that these displays will ever change. Today I spoke to a graphics pro who bought a new 23" manufactured in March 2005. He tested it for 30min in the store before buying it, BUT it is not issue-free. It was just good enough for him since he does nothing color-critical around the edges!

I read and contributed to several of the -bad 23"- threads here and as much as I'd like to simply show you photos of a "good" 23" I have none. I haven't seen any and I doubt anyone ever will...

Björn