flash player with ipad on safari

does all of you tube work without flashplayer, as i was viewing a film on facebook today from there and it was blocked by click to conect

Google/YouTube converts all video to HTML5. However, it takes a little while for Google to make the conversion. Thus, after a non-HTML video is uploaded it takes awhile for it to be converted.

What are you talking about?

Youtube does not convert your video to html5, there is no such thing. What they do is add 3 more video types to your file so it is accessable via devices with no flahs player.

There is no such thing as a non-html video because there is no such thing as html video.

Html is markup language, javascript and css3 + html = html5, the video plays under a codec, which ever since apple no flash stance kicked in has caused people to have to convert your video not just to .flv, but also to 3 other codecs so based on your browsers supported version it will play.

You may want to do a little research. HTML5 does do video and Youtube does convert video on the fly when it detects HTML5 capability.

Tamara,

HTML5 "plays" video yes. But there is no such thing as HTML5 video. Just like there is no FLASH VIDEO. FLASH and HTML5 are simply containers for presenting the video to you. The video is a video. And it has to be in a certain codec for either of these containers to play it for you.

Look up the video codecs required when using HTML5 to display video, and you will see there are 3-4 codes you need to convert your video to in order for HTML5 to play it, because of each browser and devices decision on which to support. They do not all support the same.

Where as the FLASH container, used to bring you video is the same on every device (except idevices) and so you can use one format, ie .flv, to bring the video to anyone on any device, except idevices.

This was my point, that there is no such thing as "an HTML5 video". And that now we need to run 3-4 versions of a video on our server instead of just 1, because of idevices.

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Youtube does convert video on the fly when it detects HTML5 capability.

No, it doesn't convert the video on the fly. It just streams an +already converted+ alternative version in H.264 or WebM if you are using the opt-in HTML5 YouTube page: http://www.youtube.com/html5

The original video is converted to a variety of different codecs (and sizes) after being uploaded by the user. That's why new videos are not always available in H.264 immediately.

I don't miss Flash, don't want Flash on any of my Apple devices or Macs.
I have a Click for Flash on all of my Mac's web browsers. If I really need to see something that uses Flash, I can activate Flash for times I think I want it. Otherwise, I don't activate Flash.
Flash is a resource and CPU hog and with HTML5 can and eventually will replace much of what Flash can currently do.
I am sick of all the Flash posts from Apple iDevice buyers/users that didn't do their homework before buying.
Steve Jobs was pretty adamant about his position and views about Adobe Flash.
No Apple mobile device will ever get Flash. Ever! Period!
Flash is not even a real Adobe product! The lazy ingrates at Adobe acquired it when they bought Macromedia and they haven't done much to improve and optimize this piece of code for any platform, much less for anything Apple, since their acquisition of it. Adobe got its start and growth from Apple at its birth, but have made Apple users, since the development of OS X, second class citizens.
Screw Adobe!
By the way, is there any way the moderators of the iDevice forums can put up a permanent post on Steve Jobs thoughts on Flash, so that the pro Flash users don't keep posting how the iPhone, iPod Touch and iPad suck because of their lack of Flash support?
That would go a long way to reducing the amount of posting and threads on this topic.

Really useful thread. I'm currently test driving an iPad as I was intending to move all my employees onto iPads so i can consolidate my smartphone and laptop assets. We use quite a few flash based website for training and other internal intranet applications, but it didn't even cross my mind to test them, I just assumed they would work! This thread's just saved me a few hundred thousand dollars!

To the guy that keeps posting that ipad users should email websites to demand non flash alternatives, good luck with that. I'm just going to look at non apple tablets. Thanks again!

+1 for critical thinking.

For once we agree, but I would have said logical thinking.

All videos except ones requiring DRM such as music videos and sponsored videos, or ones marked by the uploader as not viewable on mobile. You can purchase music videos and sync them to your ipad via itunes however.

If you have an android device with flash player you can view all videos and even the marked for not mobile videos by setting your browser to non mobile, and watching them in the browser (touble tap for fullscreen) which basically everyone does. Works the same as it does on a pc, its the same site.

randomManFromTheStands wrote:
Works the same as it does on a pc, its the same site.

Well, we agree on that. Flash on my Android is just as slow and crash prone as it is on my computer. Fortunately, very few sites that I access require that I use it.

Thats odd, I have a pc in the living room I use to watch all of my shows on via hulu, tbs, abc, fox, nbc, cbs, etc etc for about 3 years now and never had a crash or even a hiccup.

I also have a netbook in the bedroom connected to a monitor I use for the same purpose and never had a problem.

I also have a pc in my office with dual monitors which I almost always have some flash video running while I work and never had a problem.

I use many flash web apps on my evo daily like cnet speed test and what not, as well as watch all the same stuff on it I normally do at home while im at work and never had a problem.

Actually I would say the results I get from my phone are identical in reliability and performance to what I get on all my pcs.

I have never had flash crash anything of mine or even cause any problems. I have heard alot of talk about battery life but I easily get 30 hours out of it, and can get at least 6 hours of non stop flash video.

I would think if it was so crappy and crash prone flash would be gone from all these outlets by now. I guess your experience is rare or im sure all these comapnies wouldnt be using it.

I access Flash sites regularly on my Mac and I have absolutely never had a crash. I do have a weird problem with every Adobe product. When I'm finished and do a normal Quit, my Mac indirectly informs me that the application has crashed. This happens with Acrobat and every application in the CS5 suite.

Everybody here would concede that Flash runs much, much better on a PC than a Mac.

But since I run a Mac it doesn't really help me that it runs so well on a PC, does it.

Yes, we get it, you are a Flash maven, a Flash developer, an Adobe acolyte possibly being paid by Adobe, and definitely a corporate shill.

Reviews of mobile Flash 10.1 have been fairly negative and I have friends with the EVO who are not wild about it on their phones. But they don't use many sites that have Flash so it isn't that big of deal to them.

But again, there are phones, like yours, available that have Flash. According to you it works very well. So you were wise enough to buy a phone that meets your need. Others who need Flash should do the same. There is not a shortage of such devices and that is what competition is all about. People who need flash can buy them. People who don't can't buy iOS devices.

So what is your point? Or do you even have one?