Having the same output volume level on all tracks!

I'm trying to have all the tracks that i recorded sounding with the same volume level. I don't want some songs sounding lower or louder than others ....... (ALL OF THEM THE SAME), except for the fades in/out. I thought of using the adaptive limiter but not so sure about that. Any suggestions!
ps. I thought of starting a new thread since i didn't find my answer.

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Posted on Apr 7, 2010 10:10 AM

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Apr 8, 2010 9:57 PM in response to King Solo

wow!!!! o whole lot of smack talk from a guy who doesn't understand the difference between a "fade" and a "fader". So reading your original post you have say 10 tracks in your arrange view?? correct?? 10 as a number just for the sake of the post. Now each one of those tracks contains an audio file which you dubbed off your vinyl, correct?? So, you have "10" tracks, each with a different song and you want them to all be the same level??? Why, is this getting so complicated??? There are meters and all that which will tell you the levels for each track, Simply adjust the "fader" or "volume control" on each track so that the "volume" is the same for all tracks.........The volume will obviously fluctuate, having a constant volume throughout the entire track basically means you have no dynamic range and you would be clipping the entire song and it would sound like the worst noise you ever heard. So you are gonna want to find the "average" level. Go back to the meters. Your never gonna have a set volume in a track. But, you can find the average volume level and adjust your "volume control" until all the tracks have that relative level. I think I said the same thing multiple times, I just can't find anyway else to explain it.

Apr 8, 2010 10:18 PM in response to King Solo

OK, back to the start. You have some songs (tracks) loaded into logic, each one on an individual channel strip (track) in the arrange window. Install an Adaptive limiter plugin in the insert of each channel strip you want to be able to adjust. Set the maximum output on the all adaptive limiters to minus .1 db so that the tracks will not clip no matter how hard you push them. At this point, I usually choose the loudest of the songs (by listening) and check its average level by inserting a level meter plugin set to RMS into the insert of the master output. If the level looks good (I go for around -12db) I use that track as a guide to which I compare the other channels average level (using the level meter) and perceived loudness (using my ears and brain). Once you are satisfied with the balance of the tracks bounce them down again with the new levels. If you find that you also need to adjust EQs to make the tracks match, Insert an eq into the next insert of each channel strip and adjust accordingly. I often use Multipressors to take place of the adaptive limiters so I can adjust the bass, mids and highs separately. As I said in my first post, this is called mastering. It takes a trained ear and really good speakers to do it properly. I've been working as a pro recording engineer for over 30 years, and I only started mastering for others about 5 or 6 years ago. I did not feel qualified before that and only mastered my own material til I was ready.

Apr 8, 2010 11:58 PM in response to Data Stream Studio

Honestly? The easiest solution here is pay one of your mates (or buddies or whatever word you use in your particular part of the world) who knows what he's doing to come in and do this for you. Buy em a bunch of beers or a bottle of tequila or whatever floats their boat. And if they can explain to you the basics of what they're doing and why, while they're doing it.. then even better. That gets em two bottles of tequila.

Apr 9, 2010 6:42 PM in response to King Solo

King Solo wrote:
you can keep your comments for yourself unless you want to start another thread. It's clear understanding that you guys didn't understand my question. First of all, the pics shown above refers to volume channel in the mixer, it doesn't take a genius to identify it. If i wanted to do it manually tracks by tracks i would've done it without posting this thread. I don't think you guys know what you're doing, move over and let the experts come into this, cause you don't know a **** thing. Maybe you didn't read the all topic, it that so, it's ok you got your sarcastic moment


But... wasn't it you that has no clue? Or am i wrong here?

You asked how to match the levels on a set of mixed tracks.

You put them each oon their OWN track, and adjust the Volume Fader until they all sound the same level to your ears.

Now, if you want a more complicated answer, please contact a local Mastering Engineer, PAY him, and you'll get your tracks mastered with compression and EQ so they sound like a complete whole body of work.

Or you can spend some time learning how to master it yourself.

But don't come on here, ask a basic level changing question, and expect anyone here to NOT make a fun pass at it. It's our daily entertainment. Don't mess with a Man's entertainment,please.

Here's a question : How long have you been an audio engineer?

Cheers

Message was edited by: a local blue butted baboon with impeccable spelling and grammar.

Apr 9, 2010 6:49 PM in response to King Solo

King Solo wrote:
Hi,
i'm not trying to adjust the the fader, but the overall volume of the songs in different tracks of the project. I want them to have the same volume level, so latter i can add the fades to better smooth it out the blending mix.
ps. you mean control - shift to adjust the fader right?


Sorry, the blue butted baboon here...

i'm = I'm

latter = later?

"to better smooth it out the blending mix" = to make the blend between songs not as noticeable?

I guess from your horrendously posted sentence, above, that you are trying to do a "DJ" type of mix inside Logic, like having one track fade into another, or am I just groping at nonexistent breasts here?

Please correct your entire post, and re post. My head almost caved in with all the misspelt words, and horrible grammar. Now I really do not have a clue what you're talking about.

Cheers from the blue butted baboon.

Apr 10, 2010 12:53 AM in response to King Solo

Adjust the fader level as already suggested here many times!

On a side note, why do you need to have all tracks the same level here? I could see the point if you were mastering an album of your own but it sounds like you are transfering your vinyl collection to a digital format which is why I question your thinking.

Surely by now you should have realised that ever song in the world is not the same volume? This is what the GAIN KNOB was invented for! Trying to archive all your tracks at the same level seems extreamly lazy to me if you are doing this to make it "easier" when djing.

If your not using them for djing, then cool, but I'd love to know why you are looking to do this?

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