MacBook Pro (2010) Freeze

Anyone else with the new i7 MBP experiencing a hard freeze? No Grey Screen of Death, just freezing screen and input. Only remedy is to hold the power button to cycle the power.

It has frozen twice in the last week. Both times the machine was on battery power and certainly not under load - just light browsing, no gaming.

Just curious if this is going to be a longer term problem...

[System]
Model Identifier: MacBookPro6,2
Processor Name: Intel Core i7
Processor Speed: 2.66 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
Memory: 8 GB

[Serial ATA]
Model: APPLE SSD TS512B
Revision: AGAA0206

MacBook Pro (2010), Mac OS X (10.6.3), Intel Core i7 2.66, Apple 512GB SSD

Posted on May 3, 2010 1:56 PM

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Jan 13, 2011 7:42 PM in response to Thomas Brice

Thanks for the info, Thomas!

I just got my MBP back from Apple earlier tonight and after running it for 48 hours of stress tests and "max cpu" tests...NOTHING. No freezes...no kernel panics...nothing. They wiped the computer, and put a clean install of 10.6.6 on it for me. I'm going to run it like this for a while and see if it freezes up on me before I start (slowly) adding back my applications and data.

I'm also a developer, but I hadn't really done much with XCode yet. This is my first Mac (well second...my first was back in the early 90s) so I haven't started developing for Apple devices. I used Coda a lot and started using Espresso.

Could just having XCode installed cause the issue with IORegistryExplorer? Or do you actually have to install that app separately and run it separately?

Jan 13, 2011 8:02 PM in response to Thomas Brice

As the OP, it has been almost a year since I ordered my MBP 2010. I have been tracking this thread from the beginning to get a sense of what (if anything) Apple has been doing to address this issue. The experience has certainly seemed to vary from representative to representative and store to store.

My experience was excellent and ended up getting a brand new replacement. This was probably due to my ability to bring the MBP straight into the Genius bar while it was frozen. However, I won't be purchasing a MBP again.

Anyhow, to Thomas Brice's post: this is what I have suspected all along... the freshly introduced graphics switching feature with the latest revisions of the hardware can hard-freeze the machine. That said, I haven't had a single memorable freeze since I receive the replacement in the early part of last year - but I also spend about 80% of my usage time in Windows7 on the machine. I believe this locks the video to use the nVidia chipset, so maybe I wouldn't normally see the issue.

Unfortunately, the "solution" to this issue still stands: contact Apple as soon as you encounter the freeze. Show it to them if you can because a symptom of the problem is that there is sometimes very little logging to go off of.

Jan 13, 2011 8:40 PM in response to Thomas Brice

Hmm...I haven't explicitly started that application on my machine =/

How many people have cases on their MBPs? I have the Speck Satin something...basically it's a snap on case from Speck. I only ask because some people said they experience the freeze when their machine is working hard and heating up. When I gave my laptop to Apple, they took the case off and gave it to me to hang onto, so through all their testing the MBP was "naked". Just one definite difference I can pin down between how I use it and how Apple tested it.

Jan 15, 2011 2:05 PM in response to Artitron

I had many freezes/kernel panics only under 10.6.4, i updated to 10.6.5 and only 1 kernel panic showed up. Now i updated to 10.6.6, hoping that it would had update/fixed something, and this MBP has become a terrible mess (lots of hangups, spinning beachballs & slow internet).
Tried everything from cleaning the cache, to update Flash to repair disk/permissions.......all with no improvement. Funny thing is that the App Store is the only thing that "just works" as it should (no hangs/freezes of any kind).
Think i will wipe out OSX completely and just use Windows 7, instead. Until i have some moneys to buy another computer, is the only solution that does not make me regret the cost of this machine and that of its unreliable support (AppleCare). Won't buy any Apple products anymore.....EVER!!!!

Jan 15, 2011 5:20 PM in response to Artitron

I'm probably jinxing myself here....but here goes. After 48 hours of CPU and GFX stress tests on my machine and no freezing at the Apple store, I told them to wipe it and put 10.6.6 on it for me. So far I've been watching Netflix, Internet, setup my mail, setup contacts and iCal, just installed Eclipse and VLC...and so far no crashing. I still think it's a software thing. Either something I had installed or the 10.6.6 combo update I downloaded was corrupt. Not sure but Apple said they don't have physical copies of 10.6.6 they can distribute. I asked for one in case I needed to reinstall OSX.

Has anyone else (recently) wiped their drive and installed a clean OSX?

Jan 15, 2011 6:32 PM in response to jtweezy

jtweezy wrote:
Has anyone else (recently) wiped their drive and installed a clean OSX?


Yup. It didn't work for me. Here is what I tried:

1) reinstall using migration assistant
2) new HDD from Apple
3) reinstall using migration assistant
4) reinstall without using migration assistant

None of the above fixed the "beach balling" or freezing. Apple has since replaced my MacBook and I haven't experienced a freeze in the 12 days since I've had it. This is with a variety of daily use both AC/battery powered and nVidia/Intel powered. I've been using GFXCardstatus for monitoring only and often toggle the graphics card in an attempt to reproduce the freeze - nothing so far.

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Marc

Jan 16, 2011 2:21 PM in response to digital1313

It's been a week for me with the changes I outlined in my previous post and I haven't had a single crash. That is to say, turning off the Intel graphics via gfxCardStatus and essentially turning off sleep.

@digitial1313

I'm sorry you returned to freezes. Let me share some more information as to how I went about repairing my system.

Initially, I ran repair permissions, and discovered the sleep var file was out of wack. This made the system stable-r ... in a way. But continued problems led me to boot from an external partition (10.6.5 vs. 10.6.6 on my boot drive) to see if they continued - they did. Even 10.6.4 partition on yet another drive (and yet another interface) had the same feeezing issue. It was only when I booted from the restore CD that the system was stable. So I ran a repair permission and disk repair from the CD - all came back fine. Starting back from the boot drive was the worst yet, freezing and even a dreaded kernel panic.

I went about testing the ram - no issues.
I tried replacing the Superdrive (had MCE enclosure with 120GB SSD installed) - same problems.
I tried swapping hard drive locations - same problems.
I removed each DIMM, testing each and one in each slot - same problems.

I finally ram a suite of utilties. Disk Warrior was the big one from an emergency boot partition on a USB drive. Ran that, turned off sleep immediately (so no sleep var file was created), and kept it to nvidia only on reboot. Haven't had a freeze since.

Hope this helps someone.

Jan 17, 2011 1:36 AM in response to Artitron

For a fix, try the following:

1. go to energy saver
2. set the slider bar for 'Computer Sleep' to 'never'
3. Uncheck the box 'Put the hard disk to sleep when possible'

thiss will prevent your computer's hard drive from falling 'cold' and not waking back up when it goes inactive.

your macbook should still 'sleep' normally when the lid is closed...just don't leave the screen open and let your computer fall to 'sleep' mode. (the screen can sleep, but not the hdd)

Jan 17, 2011 4:28 PM in response to Artitron

I am having the same freeze issue.

MacBook Pro 15" Core i7 2.66 GHz with SSD and 8GB RAM bought in November, running 10.6.5.

The freezes (with pixel garbage on the screen) emerges with an external monitor plugged in and a power supply (my standard config, maybe would emerge with battery and internal monitor too). GPU switching disabled. About 1 freeze a day, sometimes no freeze in 3 days, sometimes 3 freezes a day. No particular dependency on what I do which I can see.


Here's the interesting bit:

After a freeze and if a don't touch the Mac, the kernel will still switch the monitor into standby after about 15 minutes. I can then wake up the display and everything is up to normal (tested wake up after another 10 minutes though). I'll now try to configure a shorter display sleep time to make this a more acceptable work around. I'll keep you posted. The display sleep/wake-up cycle saves all precious data which may be lost with a hard reboot!

Also, after the wake-up I know that all logs are complete. And no trace whatsoever from any log. I.e., I don't see the NVDA Channel exceptions. Maybe the exact error phenotype depends on which part of the Nvidia chip is faulty?


BTW, I am having trouble with my dealer. He says in anticipation that he won't exchange the logic board if the tests show no fault (which they likely won't do according to this thread). He says it's an Apple policy. Any idea what I shall do?

Jan 18, 2011 8:08 AM in response to falconeye

Ok, I promised to report back.

I now had my next freeze. As promised, I tried my trick:

1. Configured an Exposé corner to send display to sleep (the Apple hot key combination doesn't work for me with the external monitor).

2. Had my freeze ... display is blackening out and then a lot of garbage pixels, system looks frozen. What we talk about here...

3. Then, I navigated my mouse blindly into the corner (the mouse pointer won't move). That's easy because the corner is just pushing that far in two directions (bluetooth mouse). The display goes to sleep (sleep, not screen saver!).

4. Another mouse move to wake the display up and voila: thy system is back to normal!


I hope this little trick will work for others too. For me, it turns a system crash into something I can cope with for a limited period of time.


Good luck,
Falk

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