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When will there be a flash player for iPad or & ipod
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Apple Event: May 7th at 7 am PT
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Picture the scene - its a warm, spring, sunday morning, and after a short walk accross the park with my pertner, we sit for a relaxed breakfast together. On openning the newspaper I see an advert for a theatre event. I mention this to my partner and after a short while we agree we would like to go to the event together.
I reach for my iPhone, ask the waitress for the password to their free wireless, and go to the website. At this point I think of how great this modern age of technology is for my lazy sunday morning, and how I am living the Apple dream of technology for convenience, I am happy.
I click on purchase tickets, and then a strange thing happens -my expensive toy tells me that I cannot buy tickets because 'flash is not supported'. (insert record scratch here).
So, I work to pay for the iPhone, the cafe has installed wireless for my convenience, its a website I have used before, from one of my many apple macintosh computers, of which my iPhone works in sync with perfectly, but alas, due to what I consider to be one of the most DUMB moves ever, "computer says no".
...GENIUS :-/ ...
I reach for my iPhone, ask the waitress for the password to their free wireless, and go to the website. At this point I think of how great this modern age of technology is for my lazy sunday morning, and how I am living the Apple dream of technology for convenience, I am happy.
I click on purchase tickets, and then a strange thing happens -my expensive toy tells me that I cannot buy tickets because 'flash is not supported'. (insert record scratch here).
So, I work to pay for the iPhone, the cafe has installed wireless for my convenience, its a website I have used before, from one of my many apple macintosh computers, of which my iPhone works in sync with perfectly, but alas, due to what I consider to be one of the most DUMB moves ever, "computer says no".
...GENIUS :-/ ...
Sounds like the theatre website blew it since they were too lazy to make their site compatible with mobile devices.
Not necessarily. They are probably happy to deal with the other 99% of Internet users.
igmackenzie wrote:
Not necessarily. They are probably happy to deal with the other 99% of Internet users.
Except that your math is wrong. There are over 100 million iOS devices out there. And given this awful economy, people are buying iPads so fast that Apple can't keep them in stock. In other words, the users of iOS have expendable income which allows them to buy luxury items.
So, if I were a smart marketer (and I am), I would be targeting people who actually had money, not individuals who are using a third-rate device who can't pay their bills.
Oh and the person who wrote the sad tale about buying tickets, obviously was too lazy to download the Fandango app and buy tickets. Sad really.
At the end of the day those people arguing in favour of Flash on the iPad and iPhone are fighting a losing battle. Furthermore it's a battle not worth fighting and pointless. At the end of the day if Flash is so important to these people then they shouldn't be buying iPhones and iPads. I've had all the versions of the iPhone and also own an iPad, whilst it would be nice to have Flash support I've done just fine without it and many merits of these devices far outweigh the lack of Flash support. The sooner people get over the fact that Apple does not and most likely never will support Flash the better. Flash is a resource and energy hog and until Adobe develop an efficient and optimised version that works well on mobile devices there is no place for it on mobile devices. Even on my Mac Mini the Safari Flash plug in uses more RAM then Safari itself.
OrangeMarlin wrote:
igmackenzie wrote:
Not necessarily. They are probably happy to deal with the other 99% of Internet users.
Except that your math is wrong. There are over 100 million iOS devices out there.
Yes there are, and that represents 1% of Internet users. I haven't got my 'math' wrong at all.
Actually your math is irrelevant because as a seller I'm not concerned with the total people using the Internet ( and how do they come up with that figure?) I'm concerned with people with disposable income, as was previously pointed out. Ignoring just the iPhone users in the US is rather foolish, adding in the Touch and iPad users is just plain bad business.
igmackenzie wrote:
OrangeMarlin wrote:
igmackenzie wrote:
Not necessarily. They are probably happy to deal with the other 99% of Internet users.
Except that your math is wrong. There are over 100 million iOS devices out there.
Yes there are, and that represents 1% of Internet users. I haven't got my 'math' wrong at all.
A total of 10 billion devices. Uh huh.
deggie wrote:
Actually your math is irrelevant because as a seller I'm not concerned with the total people using the Internet ( and how do they come up with that figure?) I'm concerned with people with disposable income, as was previously pointed out. Ignoring just the iPhone users in the US is rather foolish, adding in the Touch and iPad users is just plain bad business.
I agree. The math is irrelevant. The only math that is relevant is disposable income, and iOS users have more of it. Advertisers don't care about people who buy cheap phones or low cost computers. They don't have money or good sense, both of which are required to make a sale.
Let's throw in the fact that Flash contributes to crashes, memory hogging, security problems, and dozens of other problems, we can pretty much bury it where it belongs.
OrangeMarlin wrote:
A total of 10 billion devices. Uh huh.
I'm afraid so. Sorry to disappoint you. This has been discussed here several times before.
Of all Internet users, iOS holds a 1% share. That is a fact. And, if you do the 'math', that means that the iPad has 0.03% share.
OK, these figures include business users too, but even if you doubled the iOS market share, it is still tiny.
I'm a Flash developer, and I despise Flash for its bugs, memory leaks and not-optimal way of calculations.
Adobe should just get their act together and fix that bloody thing.
Adobe should just get their act together and fix that bloody thing.
Jobs is ridiculous! Banning Flash - seriously? That's like saying, you can't view websites that use .png graphics. Let the people decide if they want to deal with slow performance, security, and battery life when accessing Flash content (if that is true). His justification is BS - there is no "business" reason to ban Flash, other than he appears to be a very vindictive person - something happened with Adobe! I refuse to buy an iPad until I can view anything I want on the Internet with it.
Do you feel better now?
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