Issue with Proximity Sensor during calls

I'm having an issue with the Proximity Sensor not properly detecting when i'm holding my phone to my ear. I can confirm that the iPhone sensor is working by covering it with my finger, but when held to my face, the screen blinks as if it cannot decide to disable the screen or enable it. It results on me hanging up, putting calls on mute, and dialing numbers accidentally while i'm on the phone. This occurs on 90% of my calls. Is anyone else experiencing this issue. I would like to confirm whether this is a software issue (Proximity Sensor sensitivity too low) or a design issue (sensor now placed towards the end of the phone).

Macbook Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.4)

Posted on Jun 23, 2010 8:09 PM

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Jul 12, 2010 12:39 PM in response to mdalegre

So, I have been following this thread on-and-off trying to figure out a solution to the proximity sensor issue and here is where I got so far.

I called Apple support who made an appointment for me at the Apple Genius desk, and I was under the impression that it would be easy to just get a replacement. I went there and the person who helped me tried to replicate the issue and he wasn't able to replicate it. So, he told me to go restore the phone as a first step, which I did, but still have the same issue. Muting calls, ending them, putting them on speaker unintentionally.

In reading through the thread, it doesn't seem that anyone got a concrete solution to that issue. Are we just doomed with bad phones with no solution to what appears to be a pervasive problem???

Jul 12, 2010 12:47 PM in response to mdalegre

Answer, I hope they try and pull that crap with me at the Apple Store. I will show the a side by side comparison with my old 3gs and I will will do like many of others have done on youtube and show them how it's screwed up. I might even bring my test equipment and a rf box and we can test some power levels and see what's really going on. That might be a little over there head though. I'll keep you guys updated.

Jul 12, 2010 1:14 PM in response to CellPhoneRepairs

I got my wifes iphone from ATT today. Im going to activate it in a few hours ( gotta go to ATT store ) and Ill let you all know if it is having the proximity problem.

If it does, then Im returning both of my iphones for a refund. If its not,m then Ill be replacing mine.

i DONT KNWO WHY iM SO EXCITED....i KNOW IN MY HEART THAT ITS GONNA HAVE THE SAME FING PROBLEM

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Jul 12, 2010 1:31 PM in response to LorangeJuice

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Influential product review magazine Consumer Reports said Monday it will not recommend Apple's new iPhone 4 to consumers because of reception problems.

"Consumer Reports' engineers have just completed testing the iPhone 4, and have confirmed that there there is a problem with its reception," the magazine said in a blog post on its website. "When your finger or hand touches a spot on the phone's lower left side -- an easy thing, especially for lefties -- the signal can significantly degrade enough to cause you to lose your connection altogether if you're in an area with a weak signal."

Jul 12, 2010 1:32 PM in response to CellPhoneRepairs

CellPhoneRepairs wrote:
Answer, I hope they try and pull that crap with me at the Apple Store. I will show the a side by side comparison with my old 3gs and I will will do like many of others have done on youtube and show them how it's screwed up. I might even bring my test equipment and a rf box and we can test some power levels and see what's really going on. That might be a little over there head though. I'll keep you guys updated.



Thank you for keeping all of us updated I hope someone goes to Apple Store with News Media to show the whole world and people who are blinded by Apple how this crippled thing is still being sold in the UNITED STATES and all around the world.

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Jul 12, 2010 1:45 PM in response to drevilb

Same issue here with proximity sensor. Did restore from both old phone and new phone with no luck.

My options.

1. Pay $69 for Apple Care Plan - then they will ship new phone while I keep defective unit until new phone arrives - then ship it back - FORGET IT!
2. Pay $29 for Advance Return - like option 1 - FORGET IT!
3. Ship phone now and wait 4-6 business days for new phone - FORGET IT
4. Go to Apple Retail Store (4 miles from my home thank God) - and get replacement - YES!!!

I suggest anyone with proximity issues to elect option 4 - with anyluck - the replacement unit might even have a clear coat on the antenna bar to fix that # )@ issue!


Update: Got new replacement today. Not enough use to say if issue fixed.

Jul 12, 2010 2:05 PM in response to mdalegre

I have been silently following this thread since I discovered the issue myself around the time we were at page 50 or so. I have been actively posting about it at macrumors, but not here as of yet. While 101 pages (thus far) should be enough, I feel compelled to contribute my experiences. If only for the sake of adding one more dissatisfied Apple customer.

Received phone on launch day via Apple/fedex. Have always been very happy with ATT service where I live. Tried very hard to replicate the signal issue and could not do it. Obviously strong signal in my area, which would also explain my good XP w/ ATT. From Day 1, I had more dropped calls than usual. Kept thinking, well.. i must be touching the G-spot just right and killing these calls. Took me a few days and some mutes/holds to realize my face was ending calls, NOT my finger inadvertently touching the Steve Jobs no fly zone (and while my signal won't visibly drop, in practice it's not so nice. I can reliably garble a conversation if I touch the right spot - different issue, different thread).

This proximity sensor problem has been a complete nightmare. Any call more than a couple minutes is doomed. I am muting, holding, and contacts the most - guess that just speaks to my phone-holding habits. Rarely speakerphone, rarely facetime. If I'm not pressing buttons, I am constantly looking to see if I have, constantly checking the GD thing if there's even a moment of silence in a conversation. IT MAKES A LONG CONVERSATION IMPOSSIBLE AND FRANKLY EMBARRASSING.

I have yet to exchange my phone because I think that's a total waste of time. And I am shocked that Apple is doing so for this complaint. I am shocked at the continued lack of communication about the issue. Apple is wasting their time and money exchanging phones that all have the same problem. Not to mention making their entire employee base look totally stupid.

This problem's prevalence is going to accelerate. There are lots of people out there who don't realize this is happening to them. They may not typically make calls of more than a minute or two, thus not adjusting the phone's position and triggering a face-incident. There are folks who are ending calls with their faces or putting people on hold (and subsequently getting hung up on), thinking it was just another dropped call - probably on the other end! They will eventually discover what's happening, even if they've never heard of a proximity sensor.

Fact is, I had both the 3G and GS since launch day and NOT ONCE EVER did I have an issue with this. I suspect my phone-holding holding habits are precisely the same after 2 years of using an iPhone.

Apple, the issue doesn't seem like a big deal. It really seems correctable via software (can't say the same about the antenna - you **cked that one up). But your continued silence on the issue is infuriating. Why are you not communicating about this? You sure are making life hard for your clueless support staff. I would really hate to return this phone, but it's virtually unusable as-is.

Jul 12, 2010 2:14 PM in response to PleaseFixTheProxSensor

I would just like to second this post by saying this is the EXACT same user experience I have had. To the very last detail!!!! The only difference is that I am now on my second iPhone 4 and still having problems.

It is so embarrassing that I have to keep pulling the phone away to check if I have pressed a button and constantly ask if people can still hear me. I AM SOOOO ANGRY!!!! FIX THIS NOW!!!

PleaseFixTheProxSensor wrote:
I have been silently following this thread since I discovered the issue myself around the time we were at page 50 or so. I have been actively posting about it at macrumors, but not here as of yet. While 101 pages (thus far) should be enough, I feel compelled to contribute my experiences. If only for the sake of adding one more dissatisfied Apple customer.

Received phone on launch day via Apple/fedex. Have always been very happy with ATT service where I live. Tried very hard to replicate the signal issue and could not do it. Obviously strong signal in my area, which would also explain my good XP w/ ATT. From Day 1, I had more dropped calls than usual. Kept thinking, well.. i must be touching the G-spot just right and killing these calls. Took me a few days and some mutes/holds to realize my face was ending calls, NOT my finger inadvertently touching the Steve Jobs no fly zone (and while my signal won't visibly drop, in practice it's not so nice. I can reliably garble a conversation if I touch the right spot - different issue, different thread).

This proximity sensor problem has been a complete nightmare. Any call more than a couple minutes is doomed. I am muting, holding, and contacts the most - guess that just speaks to my phone-holding habits. Rarely speakerphone, rarely facetime. If I'm not pressing buttons, I am constantly looking to see if I have, constantly checking the GD thing if there's even a moment of silence in a conversation. IT MAKES A LONG CONVERSATION IMPOSSIBLE AND FRANKLY EMBARRASSING.

I have yet to exchange my phone because I think that's a total waste of time. And I am shocked that Apple is doing so for this complaint. I am shocked at the continued lack of communication about the issue. Apple is wasting their time and money exchanging phones that all have the same problem. Not to mention making their entire employee base look totally stupid.

This problem's prevalence is going to accelerate. There are lots of people out there who don't realize this is happening to them. They may not typically make calls of more than a minute or two, thus not adjusting the phone's position and triggering a face-incident. There are folks who are ending calls with their faces or putting people on hold (and subsequently getting hung up on), thinking it was just another dropped call - probably on the other end! They will eventually discover what's happening, even if they've never heard of a proximity sensor.

Fact is, I had both the 3G and GS since launch day and NOT ONCE EVER did I have an issue with this. I suspect my phone-holding holding habits are precisely the same after 2 years of using an iPhone.

Apple, the issue doesn't seem like a big deal. It really seems correctable via software (can't say the same about the antenna - you **cked that one up). But your continued silence on the issue is infuriating. Why are you not communicating about this? You sure are making life hard for your clueless support staff. I would really hate to return this phone, but it's virtually unusable as-is.

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