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Apple CarPlay GPS wrong location issue

Hello,


I bought a car with CarPlay functionality (Porsche Boxster with connect plus). I am using it with an iPhone X under IOS12.1.2 (latest OS to date). CarPlay works except for navigation apps. When I use either Waze, Google maps or Apple maps, the location gets switched between the actual current location and somewhere 20-30 meters from the car. Therefore the GPS guidance doesn't work since the actual location is incorrect.


GPS apps on the iPhone works fine when not connected with CarPlay in this car. GPS navigation system from the car works fine when the phone is not connected. But when I connect the iPhone X to the car, 9 times out of 10 the location is wrong. I guess the 1 time out 10 is probably when the car gps antenna is not detected by the phone or something like that.


I tried to start GPS apps first before connecting it to the car. It usually works for a few minutes (1-5 minutes) then the location is again off by 20-30 meters. I tried to start the GPS apps after I connect the phone to the car and I get the same result.


If I disconnect the phone, the car and iPhone GPS give me correct location. If I reconnect them, both give me the wrong location. When the car is not moving, the wrong location remains at the same spot even after I disconnect/reconnect the phone. So it's not giving a random location. It's off by 20-30 meters. Maybe iPhone can't interpret the GPS coordinates correctly from the car GPS antenna.


I tried the same iPhone X with an Opel Corsa with CarPlay, a Fiat 500 with CarPlay, Jeep Compass with Uconnect CarPlay and a car withSony xav-ax1000 radio with CarPlay. They all worked perfectly fine with GPS apps. None of those car/audio head-unit had a GSM/GPS antenna.


This car or Connect plus provide specific mobile phone tray which optimizes the phone's signal by relaying it through the car's exterior antenna.


So I already did this:

1. iPhone and Car have been rebooted

2. Siri is ON

3. CarPlay isn't restricted by Content & Privacy Restrictions

4. I tried to remove and put back the CarPlay profile.

5. The connection has been checked with different cable.

6. The iPhone firmware has been updated to the last available IOS 12.1.2.

7. IOS 12.0 didn’t work either.

8 Delete and reinstall Apps

9 Restore the phone


I can see other topics with the same problem:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8569938

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/threads/uconnect-carplay-wrong-location.5292/


Has anyone ever seen anything similar?

Posted on Jan 10, 2019 4:39 AM

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Posted on Jan 9, 2020 5:05 AM

I have an Audi A4 B9 (~2017/18 version) with Navigation onboard and CarPlay is giving me similar issues in Singapore.


I connect my iPhone (iOS 13.3) via cable and everything works well except for all my navigation apps Apple Map, Google Maps and Waze.


After two months using CarPlay, the issue of my gps location being unable to lock or displaced about 50-100m from my actual location happened throughout clear weather to thunderstorms.


I thus thought it was a defective iPhone but then realised the navigation was always ok if I didn’t connect to CarPlay. I also noticed my car's navigation worked fine when the iPhone wasn’t connected too.


Fixes and semi fixes that worked for me on and off are listed below:


  1. Most of the time - connecting my Iphone before starting the car. This has generally worked well so far 9 times out of 10.
  2. disconnecting and reconnecting the cable has worked maybe 3 times out of 5.
  3. Starting the car’s own navigation (you need to navigate to a location not just go to the map) and then returning to CarPlay and starting navigation again while the car’s navigation is still running. This works 5 times out of 10.
  4. Powering iPhone on and off may initially increase the likelihood of the navigation apps on CarPlay working even if you turn the car on first, but it hasn’t been anywhere near reliable for me.


As you might have realised, it seems to very likely be some sort of sync error between iPhone and the car’s GPS system. Another poster in this thread mentioned that CarPlay may or may not use the car’s gps antenna when connected via cable. There could be something that is not syncing right if you connect while the car’s system has already initialised.


I don’t know if it’s an iOS 13.x issue or not. My iPhone was already on iOS 13.2 when I first used it with CarPlay.


I hope this helps somebody out there who may be as frustrated with it as I was. This is the first time I switched back to iPhone since the 5S, and it’s been a great experience so far save for CarPlay’s gps issues. I resisted coming back to iOS for so long largely because android auto was so much more useful than CarPlay up till recently.


I really hope Apple manages to fix this issue in the next update.



122 replies

Jul 12, 2019 6:20 AM in response to Dogcow-Moof

Each legitimate MFG (Alpine, Kenwood, Sony, JVC, Pioneer) must go thru a through certification from Apple on each model...EACH model. It takes weeks..sometimes months to get final approval. Apple controls the software on both the Head Unit and the Phone side of the equation. Once Bluetooth connection is interrupted for any reason...even only for a second. Both the Head unit and the phone are out of sync. Therefore the connections must be fully reset. Rest assured, Apple is in 100% control of the software for CarPlay

Jul 12, 2019 4:34 PM in response to Leechristian3

I has this exact same issue with CarPlay on an aftermarket head unit (Alpine) in my 2014 Cadillac CTS. It was so bad I finally sold the car. What you are describing though, plus constantly trying to reroute, is precisely what I experienced. I went so far as to open a ticket with Apple. However they wanted to do a screen recording of the issue. Unfortunately that isn’t possible when connected to CarPlay.

Jul 18, 2019 7:20 AM in response to imsrk2

Thats the issue...

Showroom guys have not connected CAN bus wire to head units. You don't need to set time manually, Head unit sync time and temperature using CAN bus.


CAR play and Head units needs VSS ( vehicle speed signal) to work correctly. VSS signal comes from BCM thru CAN bus wire. Ask showroom guys to connect CAN bus wire and scan full CAR, make sure error reported.


BTW how much did you pay ?

Jul 18, 2019 9:17 AM in response to pnkapple

Thanks for such detailed reply. I did not pay anything as it was provided as complimentary accessory. My email id is iamspr91 at gmail. Could you please share your details over the email so that I can connect with you as looks like you can be great help in getting this issue resolved. Thanks for helping here brother.

Aug 22, 2019 7:30 PM in response to NickShekar

Hi, everyone. I just started experiencing similar issues. I have an iPhone Xs Max, running iOS 12.4. I drive a 2018 Genesis G80. I have never had any issues using CarPlay. NEVER.


At least, unti last week. Coincidentally, last week I updated my car's navigation software (from MapNSoft) to the latest version, which was 13.5 for Hyundai/Genesis vehicles. Updating the software not only updates the maps for the in-dash navi, but it also updates the entire infotainment system, including Apple CarPlay functions. Ever since that update, Apple CarPlay has trouble tracking my vehicle. If I'm navigating somewhere with directions, it works pretty well, except when I drive into a tunnel, or through a long underpass. Then it loses me until I come out the other side. But if I drive without a specific destination programmed, the maps don't seem to know where I am.


To test this, I went into my friend's Hyundai, which uses an older infotainment build. I plugged my phone in, and it worked PERFECTLY. Then we went to my car, and had issues again. We even plugged my friend's iPhone into my car, and he had the same issues. So it's definitely not our phones. Considering that this all began after updating my car's head unit, it has to be the car. Although oddly, the issues are sporadic. Sometimes it's perfect. Sometimes it's hit or miss. Sometimes it's horrible.


Note: Outside of my CarPlay navigational issues, my car's in-dash navi works perfectly. So I don't believe it's my car's GPS antenna or anything of the sort.

Aug 22, 2019 7:38 PM in response to G1Ravage

Sounds like the firmware update to the car is expecting data more frequently from the phone now. Being in a tunnel, the phone likely doesn’t have anything to send. There are significant changes to CarPlay in iOS13. I wonder if that is related to some change made to the car system firmware. Maybe install the iOS13 beta now or wait until it’s released in the falll and see if that resolves it.

Aug 22, 2019 8:03 PM in response to doa70.

doa70. wrote:

Sounds like the firmware update to the car is expecting data more frequently from the phone now.


You misunderstand how CarPlay typically works; whenever possible the car provides GPS data to the phone which displays the maps on the car screen.


It sounds like when the newer software causes the car to lose its location, it's reporting nonsense to the phone.

Aug 26, 2019 2:43 PM in response to Leechristian3

I bought a 2019 Jeep Cheeroke in Florida and moved to Georgia. I used CarPlay in Florida with no issue. As soon as I leave the state and plug in my CarPlay it still thinks I’m coming from Florida location. I even tried with an Android device in my car and it did the same thing. I downloaded iOS beta 13 and the issue cleared itself up. I had to go back to original iOS 12.4 cause it was draining my Apple watch battery terrible. Once back to iOS 12.4 battery watch last 2 days and gps is back acting funny.

Apple CarPlay GPS wrong location issue

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