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Using a Mac Mini on Dell U4919DW Ultrawide Monitor.

(A part of this was posted in another forum but it is more relevant here).


I just purchased a Mac Mini 2018 and Dell U4919DW Ultrawide Monitor. I should be able to get 5120x1440 Resolution out of this setup, but at best I can get 3840x1080.


I am connected via the Dell-included USB-C cable. I tried with the included HDMI cable but it too did not work.


Connecting the monitor to my PC via Display Port Cables DID work - I was able to get full 5120x1440 resolution at full 60hz. Just not on my new Mac Mini.


I called Dell, and their technical support was a complete joke. The lady on the phone basically said "If it works on a PC, it works", without much else to offer.


I called Apple and the tech, David, tried alot harder, easily spending about 20 minutes with me trying to find the problem. (Apple tech support is why they always win my business). He was not able to solve the problem but has created a case # and escalated this to Apple Engineers. By Apple and Dell's own documentation, I should be able to get 1440 lines of resolution in my setup.


Has anyone here experienced anything similar? Any suggestions are appreciated.





Mac mini 2018 or later

Posted on Jan 11, 2019 10:56 AM

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Posted on Mar 11, 2019 8:09 PM

Hi AmMac, yes it would be my pleasure.


First, use 2 cables: Connect the included USB C cable AND the HDMI cable from your Mac Mini 2018 to the Dell u4919dw, and power it up.


Next, enable PBP modern the Dell Monitor by using the Monitor's menu navigation switches on the bottom of the monitor (just right of the center)


Finally, Click on System Preferences / Displays. Your Mac should now see 2 monitors. Set the resolution of both to "Default for Display", not scaled.


If the monitor is backwards, meaning the right side is on the left, click on "Arrangement" and drag one monitor to the right side of the other.


Then exit this window and you're done! You are now in nice 1440 vertical pixels and 5000+ horizontal pixels.


The last thing you may want to do is adjust the color but don't worry this is easy. Go back to System Preferences / Displays again, click on Color for both monitors, and make sure they are both set for Dell U4919DW. This way both "monitors" will exactly match the other in color temperature.


You will LOVE this setup.


For some extra coolness, get Magnet: http://magnet.crowdcafe.com/index.html this program will give you a fast way to move your windows around and "snap" them into place. This program + this monitor make me super productive.


Enjoy!!



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Mar 11, 2019 8:09 PM in response to AMMMAC

Hi AmMac, yes it would be my pleasure.


First, use 2 cables: Connect the included USB C cable AND the HDMI cable from your Mac Mini 2018 to the Dell u4919dw, and power it up.


Next, enable PBP modern the Dell Monitor by using the Monitor's menu navigation switches on the bottom of the monitor (just right of the center)


Finally, Click on System Preferences / Displays. Your Mac should now see 2 monitors. Set the resolution of both to "Default for Display", not scaled.


If the monitor is backwards, meaning the right side is on the left, click on "Arrangement" and drag one monitor to the right side of the other.


Then exit this window and you're done! You are now in nice 1440 vertical pixels and 5000+ horizontal pixels.


The last thing you may want to do is adjust the color but don't worry this is easy. Go back to System Preferences / Displays again, click on Color for both monitors, and make sure they are both set for Dell U4919DW. This way both "monitors" will exactly match the other in color temperature.


You will LOVE this setup.


For some extra coolness, get Magnet: http://magnet.crowdcafe.com/index.html this program will give you a fast way to move your windows around and "snap" them into place. This program + this monitor make me super productive.


Enjoy!!



Jan 22, 2019 1:07 AM in response to Malcolm J. Rayfield

After reading this thread:


https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8641919


It seams that it is a issue with mac os(Mojave) and computers with intel integrated graphic ship only.

Because with windows booted natively from this machines the full resolution (5120x1440) is achieved.


Now my question is : is it the same issue with other monitors with the same resolution (Philips 499P9H, Samsung CHG90)


Perhaps it is too earlier because this one are not really on the market at this time


Thanks for your answers

Aug 16, 2019 3:36 AM in response to wolf879

Hi there!


I just phone called Apple to ask whether this was a known issue that will be fixed when the next MacOS comes next month. Unfortunately he could neither confirm it was a known issue, nor that it will be fixed. We just had to wait and try.


But we can hope for a fix in the next MacOS. If you sign up for the Apple Beta Software Program (free and open for everyone) https://beta.apple.com/sp/betaprogram/ you are able to install the latest beta of the coming MacOS Catalina.

Can you or someone else in this thread check if the full resolution is working with the current beta? I have the beta installed, but I have not bought the screen yet because of those problems. If the beta does not work with the monitor it is possible to revert back to the stable MacOS you had.

Jul 19, 2019 5:38 PM in response to Mark from 2Much

I got the Dell U4919DW to go with my 2016 MacBook Pro 15" with touchbar. I struggled to get the full 5120x1440 resolution for a couple of days. This is what eventually worked for me to get full 5k res (each cable worked on its own)

  • Factory reset on the monitor
  • Thunderbolt 3 cable from Apple store (I have power and pic/all in one cable)
  • moshi usb-c to display port cable (no power just full 5k display)
  • HDMI but I had some funky color spaces


What did not work was the usb c cable that came with power brick.


Hope this helps some one.

Nov 4, 2019 12:36 PM in response to Mark from 2Much

No worries thanks for replying. To summarize this thread, if you have a Dell U4919DW and you want native resolution (5280x1440), we have confirmed that:


  • The Mac Mini cannot support it
  • The MacBook Pro 13" cannot support it
  • The MacBook Pro 15" CAN support it
  • The alternative for those with Mac Minis would be the $699 Blackmagic GPU, or the $499 eGFX Breakaway Puck (what I use)

Aug 21, 2019 8:00 AM in response to marius134

It's audacious to request someone spend the better part of a day installing a beta version of the OS and then reverting back if necessary, just to test a monitor on your behalf, but to do so without even a please or thank you is incomprehensible.


Regardless, I had it already installed so I unplugged everything to test it for you.


Although the resolutions are listed, they look terrible. It seems like 1/2 resolution. I tried it with both HDMI and USB-C and got the same results. The only way to use this monitor is to PBP it as described by others.


To be frank, I regret purchasing this monitor. Not having retina resolution after coming from 2 4k retina monitors really showcased to me how much retina makes a difference. I just didn't want the "seam" in the middle since I work in dual screen mode. A huge price to pay, literally, for a reduction in what I got (imho).


Below is the resolution selection screen - it's the same for both usb-c and hdmi.


As a note, even if it did work, I'm not sure I would have relied on my experiences. Some of this is likely hardware dependent. It works wonderfully when I use my eGPU at full resolution even in 10.14, so the outcome of this test, even if successful, should not have been treated as definitive.



Aug 21, 2019 1:13 PM in response to etcook

I see, thanks for the recommendations.


I am moving away from the thread topic now, please forgive me for it, but since we already discuss options to the 32:9 setup: My colleagues mostly have 1440p monitors. At home I have a 4k, but everything is so small in 4k resolution, so I use to scale it down like this:

Does this actually mean that I have 4k resolution active, but just scaled the system, like using i.e. 125% scaling in Windows? My monitor says it sends 4k to my MacBook, so I would assume so. If yes, a 4k monitor scaled to 1440p will still look a lot better than a "native" 1440p monitor, right?

Oct 31, 2019 5:40 AM in response to Mark from 2Much

I have 13" Macbook Pro Early 2015 model. In PBP mode, the section connected to MiniDisplayPort1 or HDMI (left side of picture shown below) is always showing shrunk in size i.e. not full size.

Section connected to MiniDisplayPort2 (right side of picture shown below) is showing proper size. I have tried connecting MiniDisplayPort 1 to HDMI and DP on monitor but no luck.

I tried connecting MiniDisplayPort1 and HDMI port to another Samsung 27" 1440 monitor and it works fine. Looks like issue is with Dell monitor only.

Anyone faced this problem?

Jan 18, 2020 8:43 PM in response to Mark from 2Much

Thought I might re-open the debate with a different display - my LG 49WL95C - works great in Picture by Picture (PbP) mode but will not produce a readable display using the native 5120x1440 resolution despite trying multiple cables, etc on a nMP running Catalina - have not gone back to try El Capitan but will.


For those of you into digging deeper into the mystery, I managed to "trick" it into doing 5440x1440 using SwitchResX whilst in PbP mode and to my amazement it actually worked (see picture) - but only in the sub-window.


starting to think this might be a SST/MST problem.


Jan 22, 2019 5:35 AM in response to Malcolm J. Rayfield

Quick update:


I am able to get around the issue and run my screen in high resolution, but only in extended desktop mode, which is 2 virtual monitors @ 2560x1140 each. This is actually perfect for me as stated earlier, but it of course should run in normal model at 5120x1440.


The Moshi cable does not solve the problem by the way. Don't waste your money or time.


I received another call from Apple a few days ago, and had me generate some special configuration files and upload it to them. Apple is on the case!


To me, the problem is with the OS. The Mac Mini + Dell Hardware combo works in extended desktop mode perfectly, so to me, I'm thinking OS bug.




Mar 11, 2019 2:33 PM in response to Mark from 2Much

Hi Mark, I have the same setup, just purchased a Mac mini 2018 and Dell u4919dw. Can you please help me understand how you connected it to the Mac mini and achieved the high res 5120 x 1440? I currently have the Mac connected to the monitor via Thunderbolt. Did you use two connections? Which settings did you adjust on the Mac mini and the monitor?


Much appreciated.


Cheers

Using a Mac Mini on Dell U4919DW Ultrawide Monitor.

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