Some sound files have no extension

I have a bunch of files, which I brought over from an earlier Mac (from the late 90s-early 2000s) and which have no filename extension. Thus, they are not playable. All these files are sound files.

How can I correct this so the files are playable?

iMac 27", 10.13

Posted on Feb 3, 2019 5:12 AM

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Posted on Feb 3, 2019 6:23 AM

There are dozens of different file formats used for audio in “sound files”, some of which macOS supports natively and some that require add-on software. Some are familiar, and some are specific to some odd schene a few folks used back in the 1980s and hadn’t been migrated by the millennium. Your job here is to figure out what’s in these files. Some will recommend you try each of dozens of differenr fie extemsions, and that’ll (usually) work. But you’ll need to try a bunch of different file extensions, if this is the usual (weird) case. My preference is the command line and the file magic tool; the file command.


Launch Terminal.app, enter the string “file “ with the trailing space and without the quotes, then drag themfile,you want to,check into he terminal window. When you dragmthe file into the terminal window, macOS will replace it with the full path to the file; with the directory and filename for the file you want to, examine.


If what you see output from the file command is not clear to you, post that here and I or somebody else may be able to further assist.


https://www.archives.gov/files/applied-research/papers/unix-file-command.pdf

https://www.garykessler.net/library/file_sigs.html

https://ehttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_(command)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_(command). ... Includes command examples


Also possibly useful here is the UK National,Archive’s DROID Java tool. DROID is a more extensive version of the file magic tool.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/information-management/manage-information/preserving-digital-records/droid/






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Feb 3, 2019 6:23 AM in response to Magsolo

There are dozens of different file formats used for audio in “sound files”, some of which macOS supports natively and some that require add-on software. Some are familiar, and some are specific to some odd schene a few folks used back in the 1980s and hadn’t been migrated by the millennium. Your job here is to figure out what’s in these files. Some will recommend you try each of dozens of differenr fie extemsions, and that’ll (usually) work. But you’ll need to try a bunch of different file extensions, if this is the usual (weird) case. My preference is the command line and the file magic tool; the file command.


Launch Terminal.app, enter the string “file “ with the trailing space and without the quotes, then drag themfile,you want to,check into he terminal window. When you dragmthe file into the terminal window, macOS will replace it with the full path to the file; with the directory and filename for the file you want to, examine.


If what you see output from the file command is not clear to you, post that here and I or somebody else may be able to further assist.


https://www.archives.gov/files/applied-research/papers/unix-file-command.pdf

https://www.garykessler.net/library/file_sigs.html

https://ehttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_(command)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_(command). ... Includes command examples


Also possibly useful here is the UK National,Archive’s DROID Java tool. DROID is a more extensive version of the file magic tool.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/information-management/manage-information/preserving-digital-records/droid/






Feb 3, 2019 8:14 AM in response to Magsolo

Can you post the output from the file command, and also the output from the following list (ls) command?


file ~/Desktop/myfile

ls -lnh@ ~/Desktop/myfile


The former command you’ve seen before, and the latter will display some details on the file size and a few settings, and the numeric and not-personally-identifying file ownership. (The font here is atrocious for this. That’s a lowercase L in that second command, twice. Or three times, counting the l in myfile.)

Feb 6, 2019 9:09 AM in response to Magsolo

The old Mac OS 6 - 9 sound files had no extension, and the file utility in macOS reports them as empty. These files appear as the following on macOS as kind: document — because there is no installed software that can play them.

I just dragged one of these old sound files from archival storage and dropped it on my macOS High Sierra desktop to demonstrate this fact.

Feb 6, 2019 10:45 AM in response to Magsolo

That /aip/ was intended to be /zip/—still not used to this new soft keyboard—and there’s no spell check available here in the forums quite yet.


I cited the resource fork tools earlier.


This is already deep in the “computer techie stuff”.


One other possibility I’ve seen around wirh data from older Mac OS versions... Some tools stored the data and the resource forks as separate files. Is it possible that you have the data, and this is he resource fork for the file, and the data is in a different (though usually similarly-named) file?

Feb 6, 2019 10:51 AM in response to MrHoffman

"This is already deep in the “computer techie stuff”.

Maybe it is for you, but I have no idea what I am doing, what forks are, etc.


"One other possibility I’ve seen around wirh data from older Mac OS versions... Some tools stored the data and the resource forks as separate files. Is it possible that you have the data, and this is he resource fork for the file, and the data is in a different (though usually similarly-named) file?"


I cannot find other files with the same name.



Feb 3, 2019 7:53 AM in response to MrHoffman

I moved one of the sounds files to the desktop and then tried the command "file ~/Desktop/myfile" (I changed the word myfile to the sound file name of course) and this also brings up the reply of empty.

The files do have content as I can from the file sizes.

These files are quite valuable to me, so I would like to get them back.

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