Missing SMTP Server List

Maybe you are saying the same thing, but not sure.

I think that my sending issues might be caused by Yahoo, my providor having server issues.

But I can't start to diganose, because I can't see my outgoing server settings.

Let me try to be extremely specific:

When I go to Mail | Preferences | Accounts and choose the Server Settings tab, it allows me to select an Outgoing Mail Account.

A dropdown provides five choices:

None, My personal iCloud account, My personal IMAP account (Yahoo), My business POP account (Yahoo), and "Edit SMTP Server List"

I am aware that I don't really need all of these accounts, I believe I can send from any one of these from all my accounts.

I just don't want to. I have been, to work around what I believe is a Yahoo server issue, but this should only be temporary.

I want the app to work as designed, set up an account, use it, and have the ability to see and edit the settings.

Now to diagnose my issues sending, I want to know what my SMTP server settings are to a) make sure they are as required by my provider, and to provide the settings to my provider to help troubleshoot.

So I can just click on Edit, right? And then see them and verify or edit them, right?

But when I choose Edit SMTP Server List, The window that opens shows no settings listed in the pane.

I would have expected that each of the 3 settings in the previous dropdown to have an entry in this pane so I can edit or remove them.

Just re-create them some have said.

But this creates a bad situation:

The new settings appear alongside my old settings in the Outgoing Mail Account drop down.

I really don't want to compromise my settings list with twice as many entries.

That would obviously be a potential work around, but work arounds are only supposed to temporary.

So again, my question is, where are these settings located on my computer, why can't I see or edit them in the Mail app, and how do I clean this up?

Thanks for your reply.

The window you attached is the window before the server list window, but I think we are seeing the same thing.

I've just labeled my outgoing settings using the terms "iCloud, Yahoo user name, and Work" instead of my email addresses.

You say "where I can add the details for the account using the "+" button". Mine too, but after you add them, can you go back and they are still listed? Mine have somehow disappeared. I must have set them up at some point, because they are in the dropdown, but the details I can no longer see. I know they are there, because they work fine 90% of the time, but occasionally the Yahoo POP account stops working for a day or two, then comes back.

I just wanted to check the settings to see if they were correct, but I have no way to do that.

I can't click on the "minus" because there are no entries.

I even tried creating new settings, with the same name, but then I just end up with two settings with the same name.

Like I said they work fine most of the time, but sometimes not, and it makes sense to me that they should be listed there.

It's like saying the car runs fine and gets me to work, but when I look under the hood, there is no engine.

The one time the car does not start, you kind of expect to see an engine when you lift the hood.

I use Yahoo, but it's the same way.

The only issue is I can't see what the Mail app has already entered.

And like I tried to say before, yes, I can re-create them, but that seems I am just ignoring the fact that my Mail app is using settings that it does not appear to actually have.

You mine works fine for months, and then not for 2-3 days, and then back again.

It might be that Yahoo is not maintaining the POP servers as diligently as the IMAP ones.

I know I used to use IMAP for my Yahoo business account, but switched back to POP for some reason I don't remember.

I've been planning on moving that business acount to GoDaddy, so I might just live with it for a while longer.

Thanks