Forced use of 64-bit applications

Anyone understand why we will not be able to run 32-bit software under future versions of the OS? I mean, I know 64-bit software is superior, but what if a 64-bit version of something we rely on heavily does not exist and will never exist? Specifically, perhaps my most valuable application is Quicken 2007 for Mac. It has been supplanted by later versions that simply do not meet my needs, which Q2007 does admirably. I have to choose between staying with an ever more obsolete version of the OS and giving up access to my most important data--data going back nearly 30 years. How on earth does that benefit anyone?


MacBook Pro 15", macOS 10.14

Posted on Jun 12, 2019 10:03 AM

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Posted on Jun 12, 2019 10:40 AM

You do have another potential solution and that is to consider using a VM manager, like Parallels or VMware. With this manager, you can create a VM (virtual machine) of an earlier version of OS X or macOS that the version of Quicken you have, works with.


Then, whenever you need to run Quicken, you would just start up this VM and use Quicken as you always have. FWIW, I have multiple earlier releases of macOS going back to OS X Lion as VMs. I run these to help answer questions for folks here at the forum.

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Jun 12, 2019 10:40 AM in response to mdpaustin

You do have another potential solution and that is to consider using a VM manager, like Parallels or VMware. With this manager, you can create a VM (virtual machine) of an earlier version of OS X or macOS that the version of Quicken you have, works with.


Then, whenever you need to run Quicken, you would just start up this VM and use Quicken as you always have. FWIW, I have multiple earlier releases of macOS going back to OS X Lion as VMs. I run these to help answer questions for folks here at the forum.

Jun 12, 2019 12:14 PM in response to Old Toad

I have not tried Q2019, but you have reminded me of some of my misgivings about the versions between 2007 and 2019 that I have tried.

• I have very many memorized reports I do not want to lose and am not sure I could recreate if I tried

• I have no desire to get involved in a subscription commitment when what I have is just what I want and need

• The Q2007 calendar feature, integrated as it is with my accounts, is practically the center of my life because, in addition to financial accounts, I have one named Chores that is what it sounds like. I have tried to replicate its functionality using Numbers and iCal, but neither comes close to what the Q2007 calendar does extremely satisfactorily.

• I have never paid bills through any version of Quicken, so I don't care about that one way or the other.

I am genuinely pleased for you, though, that you are satisfied with what is now available to us. I am increasingly confident that it is going to be safe and reliable to run Q2007 under a virtual machine via Parallels; I have been using it as my primary repository for Q2007 for the past week or so and, after some initial issues that left me worried, it seems to be stable and quite satisfactory.

Jun 12, 2019 10:23 AM in response to mdpaustin

Basically in an effort to streamline and reduce the complexity of macOS moving forward. As mentioned Apple has continued to support 32 bit applications for the last 10 years since they moved onto 64 bit Intel architecture.


As time goes by, it becomes increasingly more complex to continue to support 32 bit apps and maintain their required support libraries and dependencies.


Nothing lasts forever, and Apple has given developers ample time to upgrade their apps to 64 bit in that time, and users to find replacements if 64 bit apps are not available from developers.


You cannot honestly expect computers to forever support every older application ever made out there. Its just not possible. At some point things need to move forward.


Jun 12, 2019 11:55 AM in response to mdpaustin

FWIW I migrate to Quicken Deluxe 2019 and it does every thing I did with 2007. The migration of data to the new version was flawless.


The user interface is quite different from 2007 and the learning curve is a pain. As far as maintaining checking and credit card accounts it does a very good job. The only thing I haven't mastered yes are the multiple reports that I had memorized in 2007.


The one feature I compromised on was online bill pay. I had Quicken BillPay and gave it up to make the payments thru my bank. Takes a bit more effort but saves a bunch of $$ to balance out the yearly subscription.


I'm currently running both versions concurrently until I get more familiar with 2019. This lets me keep track of differences between the two. I was a bit weary at first but am beginning to like 2019's user interface more and more (the font size is larger for these old eyes than with 2007).


Now here comes the disclosure, ready?


I'm retired so have lots of time to give to the learning curve.


Have you tried 2019? What feature of 2007 is missing on those you've tried?


Jun 12, 2019 12:22 PM in response to mdpaustin

mdpaustin wrote:

Good point. Bottom line: I think it must be the case that providing 32-bit support was in some way hampering things elsewhere. For one thing, Apple staff who are familiar with 32-bit applications and processes are probably becoming more and more rare.

I'm sorry but I'm not understanding your post. What do you mean? It matters not to the staff whether an app is 32 bit or 64 bit. It is a hardware capability like 64 bit bus and addressing rather than 32 bit bus and addressing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/64-bit_computing

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