Issue with Proximity Sensor during calls - Continued.

wow, so question is what do we think of 3 now down to 1. - unless it is a "super sensor" or something.. lol

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The iPhone 3G’s third sensor, first revealed by iLounge in April, has been confirmed as a second proximity sensor. While the original iPhone offered only two front-mounted —one ambient light sensor and one proximity sensor—the iPhone 3G sports an array of three sensors (two proximity sensors, one ambient light sensor) in a J shape to the left of the ear speaker, moved from their original locations above and to the speaker’s right. iLounge has learned that the two-sensor array apparently provides superior face proximity detection than the original single sensor, which under some conditions _failed to function properly._ This detail and others are included in our First Look at the iPhone 3G.

(I guess they couldn't fix it in software before, hope they can this time)

iphone4_925 wrote:

iPhoneFanSince2G wrote:
TrentP - I also have another question I just thought of. Just compared my 3GS to my 4.

Why would you use 3 sensors in the old phone if you could get the job done with 1?

What were each of these three sensors doing? I could even see maybe needing 2 for auto-birghtness and proximity but why 3?

Why make a car with 3 headlights if you only really need 2 -or- 1?
Who puts in extra parts at extra cost if they are not needed?
I am not being sarcastic or anything either.
I am just wondering if maybe you know or could figure it out with some research?

On the 3gs there were 3 SENSORS and it was like this one for Auto Brightness and 2 proximity sensors and If i remember on top of my head even steve jobs said that they did it to have better detection of the face when they introduced 3GS


SOURCE

http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/news/comments/iphone-3gs-third-sensor-revealed- as-second-proximity-sensor/

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iPhoneFanSince2G wrote:
wow, so question is what do we think of 3 now down to 1. - unless it is a "super sensor" or something.. lol

quote...

The iPhone 3G’s third sensor, first revealed by iLounge in April, has been confirmed as a second proximity sensor. While the original iPhone offered only two front-mounted —one ambient light sensor and one proximity sensor—the iPhone 3G sports an array of three sensors (two proximity sensors, one ambient light sensor) in a J shape to the left of the ear speaker, moved from their original locations above and to the speaker’s right. iLounge has learned that the two-sensor array apparently provides superior face proximity detection than the original single sensor, which under some conditions _failed to function properly._ This detail and others are included in our First Look at the iPhone 3G.

(I guess they couldn't fix it in software before, hope they can this time)

SO I am thinking now that if on the IPhone 3g they couldn't do much that they had to put the three sensor on the 3GS to have things better or to have it the way it suppose to be Then the chances are now very slim that they will recall this IPHONE 4 for the sensor Now only thing is lets just wait till tomorrow and see what they have to say about the sensor If they say nothing lets make a smart decision and return this IPHONE 4 for good

I could be way off base here but I think tomorrow is going to be all about the antenna and nothing about this. I think they are going to say they are changing or adjusting the way the phone interfaces with the cell towers which will improve reception but may have some effect on battery life.

I know that one of the main differences in how the iPhone OS works as opposed to other regular phones is that is continually connects and disconnects from the cell tower to improve battery life instead of maintaining a constant connection. This is one of the problems in why AT&T has acquired so much burden in keeping up with the iPhone cell signal data and call requirements.

It is not so much about the bandwidth as it is the multiple of available cells required for iPhones in relation to other phones to keep connecting and disconnecting.

I think Apple may take the slight hit in battery life and improve reception by changing the way the phone connects. Probably want to do a press conference to explain and demonstrate.

May be way off but just a thought...

Yea even i have the same feeling they just going to talk about the antenna problem I don't really expect anything from apple about the proximity but lets see its 1 almost in California 9 more hrs for 10 AM **** I feel like we all are waiting like we were on the launch day of this product lol

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Like it matters, but I too, have the same issue - received my phone July 12th - so no, I dont think they quietly fixed this issue.

Apple you better address this issue on your NEW CONFERENCE

More of the same from me. I've had iPhone 2G, 3G and 4 - complete fan - with no problems. But the iPhone proximity sensor problem is a real pain - pressing all sorts of buttons with my ear - including mute, end call and new ring tones - and it's never happened to me before.

I got my iPhone on day 1 in the UK - and uploaded everything from my 3G via iTunes. I've since done all the setting resets suggested, turned the phone off in all possible ways - made no difference. Last night's download of the new iOS 4.0.1 made no difference either.

Tonight's Apple Conference will be interesting - but I'm worried that all the media attention is on the phone signal issue - which I don't seem to have a problem with (it might be happening to me - but it's not causing me a problem.)

I called O2 last night - it took a while, but they did admit to the proximity sensor issue (you wouldn't know it from the web-site) so depending on what Mr Jobs says tonight - it might be going back for an exchange. I wish I hadn't been so quick to eBay my iPhone 3G!

PS - I want iOS4 for my ipad - I need the folders! - hurry up Apple!

Might as well chime in here...

I'm having the same problem with my iPhone 4. Happens most phone calls, I can see the screen light up in the corner of my eye. I reckon this is more than half the cause (for me at least) of the dropped calls I've been experiencing. Although I do get the death grip, I think it's is more that the screen turns on and then my cheek-bone hangs up for me... Also managed to mute myself, turn speakerphone on, and play key tones down the phone...

Just got a new iPhone 4 this morning from o2 and its got exactly the same issue. I've just emailed Apple Support back to ask what the company is doing about this. I've tried the manual reset, resetting the Network settings etc. This is just ridiculous.

I've managed to call a second contact with my cheek...
Does anybody know if 4.01 is addressing this?

No its not. I've donwloaded it this morning and it makes no difference. The release notes also only mention the improved algorithm for the reception bar display.

Thanks Andy. Imagine now a sensor issue + a BT issue will make us curse every 2 call minutes...

I have had 4.0.1 for 18+ hours and my phone works just fine now. I had horrible problems before.

Where is TrentP when you need him? Some people are saying 4.0.1 fixes it, some are saying it doesn't. Could have used his expert analysis. I need to know before I pick up my iPhone. I don't want it unless the sensor issue is fixed or at least acknowledged by Apple.

Still no good on 4.0.1 here.

I just was on a call and watched in a mirror and the light kept coming off and on. Didn't hang up on my caller this time but did put him on speaker phone for a few seconds.