iPad Pro 9.7 WiFI as a navigation/travel tablet? What do I need?

Hello,


We have an iPad Pro 9.7 WiFi that we want to use as our navigation tablet when we travel. What all is needed to make the iPad Pro functional for this purpose? Obviously, this WiFi-only version doesn’t have built in GPS so we’d need that. I’d love any recommendations (lightning vs BT as well as any brands). Is there anything else that we’d need in addition? Any info would be great. We currently have a couple year old Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 which we’ve used for several long trips but it tends to lag a lot compared to the much smoother/faster iPad Pro and we’re just frustrated with it and need a new option. I’ll connect the iPad to my iPhone via hotspot as we’ve done with the Tab S2 prior. Any info or advice would be brilliant. Thanks so much!

iPad Pro 9.7-inch WiFi

Posted on Sep 11, 2019 12:52 AM

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Posted on Sep 11, 2019 2:07 PM

Thanks so much for taking the time to respond. You’re reply was thoughtful and informative.


In the meantime, I’ve also discovered some additional information that might actually make my iPad Pro work. There are, in fact, adapters that one can add that will give full GPS data to any iPad/iPad Pro/iPod Touch w/o GPS built in. I’m not including this to be contrary in any way but only to share what I’ve found in case others happen along this at some point looking for similar info as me.


Companies like Bad Elf make a full GPS add-on unit for iOS devices that lack it. Unlike the GPS in iPhone or cellular iPads, this is not a passive GPS that also relies on the cellular signal to ping cell towers with the GPS to confirm location. This makes the add-on GPS superior to the built-in options. In fact, may people on boats or in planes use these add-on devices because they give additional information that the passive GPS cannot. It works with things like Google Maps and many, many other maps programs. It can work while connected to the internet OR in Airplane mode. I’ll be able to connect my iPad Pro to the internet via my iPhone hotspot so I can get all the additional data I need.


While a newer iPad might be better in some ways, I don’t think I can sell what I have and get a new one w/ GPS (which isn’t a cheap upgrade) for less than the cost of the GPS receiver. This will give me more stable GPS data anyway since it’s not reliant on the cellular connectivity - and it might explain why we’ve had some issues using our Samsung Tab S2 w/ built in GPS & hotspot since it doesn’t actually have access to any cellular towers in the tablet itself. Maybe not, but it’s a possibility.


Hope that might help someone else.

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Sep 11, 2019 2:07 PM in response to MichelPM

Thanks so much for taking the time to respond. You’re reply was thoughtful and informative.


In the meantime, I’ve also discovered some additional information that might actually make my iPad Pro work. There are, in fact, adapters that one can add that will give full GPS data to any iPad/iPad Pro/iPod Touch w/o GPS built in. I’m not including this to be contrary in any way but only to share what I’ve found in case others happen along this at some point looking for similar info as me.


Companies like Bad Elf make a full GPS add-on unit for iOS devices that lack it. Unlike the GPS in iPhone or cellular iPads, this is not a passive GPS that also relies on the cellular signal to ping cell towers with the GPS to confirm location. This makes the add-on GPS superior to the built-in options. In fact, may people on boats or in planes use these add-on devices because they give additional information that the passive GPS cannot. It works with things like Google Maps and many, many other maps programs. It can work while connected to the internet OR in Airplane mode. I’ll be able to connect my iPad Pro to the internet via my iPhone hotspot so I can get all the additional data I need.


While a newer iPad might be better in some ways, I don’t think I can sell what I have and get a new one w/ GPS (which isn’t a cheap upgrade) for less than the cost of the GPS receiver. This will give me more stable GPS data anyway since it’s not reliant on the cellular connectivity - and it might explain why we’ve had some issues using our Samsung Tab S2 w/ built in GPS & hotspot since it doesn’t actually have access to any cellular towers in the tablet itself. Maybe not, but it’s a possibility.


Hope that might help someone else.

Sep 11, 2019 2:37 PM in response to piecesofme

Also wanted to add that the Bad Elf is by no means the only option for an add-on GPS. Garmin makes the Glo: https://www.amazon.com/Garmin-GLO-Bluetooth-Receiver-010-02184-01/dp/B07M9CZYTD, Dual Electronics makes a few options: https://www.amazon.com/Dual-Electronics-XGPS150A-Multipurpose-Augmentation/dp/B006M49G80 and the upgraded https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00E65TNYE/ref=psdc_617650011_t1_B006M49G80. I’m sure there are more but it’s a start. I also found this helpful thread after much searching: https://www.pilotsofamerica.com/community/threads/can-a-wi-fi-only-ipad-be-used-as-a-road-gps.113350/

Sep 11, 2019 4:33 AM in response to piecesofme

If you already have an iPhone you already have a better, much more accurate GPS in that device.

Use the iPhone for your GPS. It is already designed to work as a GPS device!


The iPad will work as a passive GPS, but with no cellular data capabilities, you will find that a Wifi ONLY iPad relies heavily in picking up various types of WiFi signals in and around an area to help the iPad's passive GPS in triangulating your approx. location.

That is how the passive GPS works in an iPad. A WiFi ONLY iPad does not use GPS satellite signals or data.

When an iPad cannot find any passing WiFi signals in an area, it will be impossible to use an iPad as an accurate, on the go GPS.


There are some workarounds to get a route plotted and started on a iPad while connected for a time to Wifi, like places with free WiFi access, but to do this, you need to be able, every so often, pull into a location with free WiFi access, plan and start a route, then proceed onto your destination.

These locations may not always be conveniently located and available.


Either sell your current WiFi ONLY iPad Pro and/or get a new iPad/iPad Pro with cellular data that can use your current iPhone carrier plan OR simply just use the full GPS that is available in your iPhone.


I would NOT trust using a WiFi ONLY iPad for use a your ONLY GPS.

AND there is nothing you can do or add.

You cannot add cellular and full GPS internal hardware to a WiFi ONLY iPad.

There is no way to do that!


Sorry & Best of Luck to You!

Sep 11, 2019 2:13 PM in response to piecesofme

Yes, I suppose you can buy more things to try to use your iPad for a navigation tool. But why would you do this? As MichelPM so elegantly posted above, if you have an iPhone it's already designed as a navigation tool and will likely provide the absolute best capability as a navigation tool. This is especially important as you have a Wifi only device. How can you be certain you can even maintain uninterrupted access to Wifi, unless you also purchase another device or use Hot Spot from your iPhone to your iPad.


You're certainly welcome to do as you deem most appropriate for your needs, but I don't understand why you think this a better solution than using the device you likely already own for the purpose.

Sep 11, 2019 3:06 PM in response to lobsterghost1

I guess I don’t see what you mean. I find there are several reasons that my iPhone isn’t the best for us while navigating. Perhaps I should say that we have to travel more than 4K miles by car at least 3 sometimes 4x a year. That’s a lot of time looking at a little screen.


Why do I want to use an iPad - easy:


1) 10” screen vs 5.8”. About twice the screen space. So much easier to use while driving.

2) My spouse drives and I actually use my iPhone while he’s driving. His screen is even smaller than mine.

3) It’s easier for us to have a device that dedicated to leaving in the car while traveling. We both take our phones w/ us on every stop and leave the tablet in the car. We both have health issues and leaving the phone in the car isn’t an option - even for a quick pit stop. It’s worked much better for us than reconnecting and remounting every time we get back in and get settled. It isn’t a huge difference, but it’s one that my spouse especially, prefers.

4) I use the hotspot on my phone to connect my tablet. Been doing this ever since we started using a tablet. Don’t find it’s a huge difference in connection vs direct cellular, actually. The truth is, the iOS implemendation of hotspots is much better/stronger/more elegant than the Android version. I used to be a huge Android fan but this is definitely a win for iOS on hotspots - including the fact that both devices “see” the secondary device as being connected to the hotspot vs just another WiFi connection. I don’t need to buy anything else for that - I just connect my iPad to my iPhone and it uses the iPhone’s cellular connectivity. This way I also don’t have to pay for a separate cellular connection for my iPad which I’ll use just a few months out of the year.

I know for most people, you’re both right, an iPhone would likely be the perfect solution - especially if traveling on one’s own. And if this was the case, selling both my phone and iPad to fund an iPhone Max for the larger screen might be the best and most elegant option. If it were just me, I’d probably go with this minimalist solution and I’d probably love it. But given these other issues including my spouse having more difficulty with sight than I do, the larger screen simply is a must. He cannot switch from watching the road driving to seeing the next turn, what lane to be in, what the speed limit is, and then what lane he needs to be after that next turn, all on a phone size screen. Glancing back and forth between the road and such a small screen is just not something he can easily do. Especially not when we have to drive for 4 days straight. It’s just too much. If we had a built in screen on the car for either CarPlay or Android Auto, we’d use that.


The iOS ecosystem tends to handle hotspot connection automatically, once you connect one time. We’ve had a lot of issues using the Samsung Tab S2 where it was a total pain to reconnect. When we’d realize we’re not connected & therefore not getting the most accurate data, we’re constantly having to leave the maps app (often while coming up to critical junctions) going back and forth between the settings of the phone and tablet turning off WiFi, turning on hotspot, turning off WiFi on the tablet, resetting and starting WiFi again so it can connect to the Hotspot. Also, because Android doesn’t see the Hotspot as different from a WiFi connection, we got hit with tons of extra cellular data because even through I had turned off all auto updating on WiFi on every app everywhere I could find, it would still download stuff in the background. Since iOS sees the Hotspot connection as separate from WiFi, it’s not as difficult on this.


The Tab S2 also was really laggy, choppy, and crashed often. I was surprised at this because I figured it should be more than enough to run navigation smoothly but it wasn’t a great fit. We also got sent on a number of wrong directions which was an oddity that we’d not encountered before. That may not be the S2 directly but it just wasn’t a good experience with the crashes and lags and loss of connection.


You both gave beautiful, elegant and very reasonable information. For most people, it would be the best option. And I’m grateful that you both shared it. We just happen to have a different use case and need the larger screen and other stuff. It looks like for under $100 we can have the iPad running navigation for us. If it works well, we can sell the Tab S2 and probably make back what we have in the GPS, or part of it, perhaps.


Anyway, that’s the reasoning for us. Again, thanks so much for sharing. I know it might not matter for most people but it’s what we need for these long trips.

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