catalina mail column view

Entered feedback to Apple as I too had the same question. Incredibly inconvenient, especially since I work out of my inbox and CC myself on everything. It creates a more organized environment for me, and I never miss an email due to them being grouped together.

I miss Eudora. Then along came Apple's Mail.app which was "good enough" and too cheap and easy so it killed the competition.

Maybe Apple is deliberately screwing up Mail.app to invite return of 3rd party mail clients?

Deleting Classic Layout and sortable re-arrangeable re-sizable columns is only the latest gaff.

Prior to that Apple decided contrary to decades of practice that the attribute line on replies should be quoted. And they started putting .signature above the quoted text. Both are dead wrong.

Before that Mail.app didn't have threading so Apple invented "conversations" based on the Subject: header, never mind the wonderful existing solution (that even Outlook gets right) of using Message-ID, References, and In-Reply-To headers. At least Apple sets In-Reply-To, haven't looked lately to see what they do with References but if there is a References in the message being replied to they should be able to add another Message-ID to the list no matter they otherwise ignore the header.

I miss Eudora, which got all of the above right. But if I recall correctly the end of Eudora was about the same time as the rise of IMAP4. And before iCloud. Eudora didn't sync message rules between one's multiple machines. Didn't work off a common Contacts/Address book.

Maybe I should return to mutt, vim, and procmail in a Terminal window?

This is a classic sign of developers and designers with very little experience. It is highly likely they outsourced a piece of code to online developers. Apple rarely makes mistakes like this if they are focused on an issue. They just don’t care about this issue. The connection to the new IOS13 mail bugs is quite interesting. My phone and iPad are experiencing all the same issues mentioned in the press.

Apple, you screwed the pooch on this one.

Do most of us have a 365 subscription? I have the 365 home subscription which covers maybe 5 Macs total - I have 3. So easy for me to switch to Outlook - it's just been sitting there because Mail was fine and well-integrated. I also have OneDrive for 100gb as well.

What a pain! I regret my upgrade to Catalina after a few hours of use.

How a new version of Mail can do much less than the previous one? Is that a progress?? This new design is really bad. I'm seriously thinking about changing to another mail client if apple doesn't restore ability to change columns order.

Also these new swipe gestures are irritating and not adapted to a desktop app at all. It's very easy to delete an mail by error ; at least a confirmation should ne asked!

Every single Mac owner who upgraded to Catalina and is frustrated as **** wth Apples silly manipulation of mail should silently protest....do not buy any apple product for a 60 days...it seem their only motivation is shareholder pacification...it used to be making great products for their customers....mail in Catalina is not a great product..I have taken Catalina of my Mac finally and will do the same to my lap top

I find the swipe functionality very irritating. There doesn't seem to be any way of disabling it. I've looked for a thread about this piece of functionality but haven't found one. Has anyone else found one?

Thanks

And if and when they do restore this feature - which I'm hoping they do - will all our mailbox column settings be restored? I have over 50 mailboxes and I use them for archive purposes and to manage my workload. If they're restored and we have to set them up all over again - if the settings weren't saved anywhere - omg I'll be ******.

HUGE FUBAR, Apple - this was a bad one.

Outwith Outlook as I don't have 365 has anybody found a similar email client thats free to use along the lines of Mail.

Tried Spark, but it doesn't have the features that have just been removed from Mail that has me looking for a new email client in the first place and I can't adjust the size of the fonts in the reading panels.

I love my apple products but it’s stuff like this that makes me wish there was an alternative out there. I’ve changed my phone to android, no real change to be honest, but I can’t face ever going to windows! Makes me feel like Apple have abso No regard for their customers when they remove client functionality like this... I’ve logged a complaint too...

Apple, why have you screwed up Mail's column view capabilities in Catalina ?i It's a disaster!

We can no longer resize the width and reorder the position of the columns.

Please, please restore the column view to exactly what it was before!!!!

This is very lame. The new view is atrocious and big step backward. I like to organize my columns with date and time received on left, then sender, attachment, etc. Also like to re-sort occasionally based on attachment size when cleaning up or by sender specifically when tracking historical responses. What is purpose of decreasing functionality Apple?

Apple's answer should not be "this is not a a malfunction but just a change in program" when the program worked before but now doesn't. Obviously users have grown accustomed to varying the header features to suit their needs and the programming for Mail in Catalina was inadequate. The answer should be "We are on it."

Apple, this sucks.

Ok, Mail.app didn't get much love over the past years, but this time it seems as if it has been made worse deliberately. How can you remove that tableview function that has been there since NextStep and replace it with a grey ... nothing.

I just discovered how much functionality and usability mail has lost in Catalina. I posted feedback to Apple, but now I seriously wish I had not upgraded. For the way that I use mail in my business (different columns/arrangements in different mailboxes, missing fields to sort by, etc) this is a catastrophe.

I guess I'll run mail in a Mojave VM in my mac and disable it in Catalina.