Reminders app waking mac from sleep

I've been having 2 issues with my mac staying asleep, this post is about one of them, which is regarding reminders waking from sleep, turning the display on, and not going back to sleep:


iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, 2017). Mac OS 10.15. Have two external USB hard drives hooked up at all times.


In Energy Saver, power nap is off, wake for network access is off. In Notifications, Do Not Disturb has the following 3 checked: "When the display is sleeping, when the screen is locked, when mirroring to TVs".


I set up a test reminder, see the `inDelta=137` below.


Abridged log using `pmset -g log` (full log in attached file):

2019-10-12 14:26:25 -0700 Notification        	Display is turned off
2019-10-12 14:26:25 -0700 Assertions          	PID 582(useractivityd) Summary PreventUserIdleSystemSleep "BTLEAdvertisement" 00:00:02  id:0x0x10000a3af [System: PrevIdle DeclUser BGTask IntPrevDisp kDisp]
...
2019-10-12 14:26:25 -0700 Assertions          	PID 119(powerd) Summary InternalPreventDisplaySleep "com.apple.powermanagement.delayDisplayOff" 00:00:58  id:0x0x1000008003 [System: PrevIdle DeclUser BGTask IntPrevDisp kDisp]
2019-10-12 14:26:25 -0700 Assertions          	Kernel Idle sleep preventers: -None-
2019-10-12 14:26:25 -0700 Assertions          	[System: PrevIdle DeclUser BGTask IntPrevDisp kDisp]
2019-10-12 14:26:25 -0700 Assertions          	PID 119(powerd) Created InternalPreventSleep "com.apple.powermanagement.darkwakelinger" 00:00:00  id:0x0xd0000a3b1 [System: PrevIdle DeclUser BGTask SRPrevSleep IntPrevDisp kCPU kDisp]
2019-10-12 14:26:25 -0700 Assertions          	PID 584(sharingd) Released PreventUserIdleSystemSleep "Handoff" 00:02:38  id:0x0x10000a381 [System: PrevIdle DeclUser BGTask SRPrevSleep IntPrevDisp kCPU kDisp]
2019-10-12 14:26:40 -0700 Assertions          	PID 119(powerd) TimedOut InternalPreventSleep "com.apple.powermanagement.darkwakelinger" 00:00:15  id:0x0xd0000a3b1 [System: DeclUser BGTask SRPrevSleep IntPrevDisp kCPU kDisp]
2019-10-12 14:26:40 -0700 Sleep               	Entering Sleep state due to 'Software Sleep pid=205': Using AC (Charge:0%) 150 secs
2019-10-12 14:26:43 -0700 Wake Requests       	[proc=dasd request=Maintenance inDelta=43536] [*proc=powerd request=UserWake inDelta=137 info="com.apple.alarm.user-visible,481"]
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2019-10-12 14:29:01 -0700 Notification        	Display is turned on


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Posted on Oct 12, 2019 3:15 PM

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Posted on May 22, 2020 9:44 AM

For what it's worth, I had this same issue since I updated to Catalina in January. After trying almost everything on the forums, I had turned off all reminders and notifications but my computer still turned on twice a day and the exact same time. In my terminal, I followed someone else's advice and typed in this command:

pmset -g log | egrep '\b(Sleep|Wake|Start)\s{2,}

to see that it was in fact waking at those times

and then

pmset -g sched

to see that I did in fact have it scheduled to wake.


Something someone else wrote gave me the impression to check my iCloud account, which I rarely use. I logged in and lo and behold, I had 2 reminders that were in my iCloud that weren't on my phone reminders anymore. I deleted those 2 items and this morning was the first in months that my computer did not wake!


So, in addition to the list that Apple provides, I recommend checking your iCloud reminders or notifications because that is what was causing the problem for me.

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Aug 14, 2020 12:03 AM in response to jd2020

What @jd2020 says makes me sad! This is by far the most commented thread in Apples "macOS Catalina"-section and senior staff/engineers are not aware of this bug? Sorry, thats unacceptable. People are digging as deep as they can to solve this problem and Apple simply doesn't care, otherwise we would have received a bugfix with any of the last updates. Hopefully Big Sur will fix this!!!

Aug 29, 2020 11:28 PM in response to jd2020

There has recently been an update to Reminders. Having thoughtlessly accepted this on my iPad, I am now unable to use Reminders (in that account) on my Mojave Mac which reports Catalina is required to utilise this new version of the iCloud Reminders data. I have not yet checked how a Catalina Mac responds to this.


However, it occurs to me that this new version may have fixed the problem. I don't yet know until I test my Catalina Mac. Is it possible jd2020 that you have allowed this update to occur? Have Apple perhaps finally fixed it?


It wouldn't be the first time that a Manufacturer, while denying a problem exists, or simply apparently doing nothing, in fact slips in a fix, at the same time insisting they've done nothing, or at least, leaving their front line support unaware of any fix.


Or does the problem still exist for others even after the Reminders update?

Aug 30, 2020 2:06 PM in response to UKenGB

I'm not sure what you mean by "recently" and "new version." Reminders was updated in iOS 13, some 11 months ago. When you open Reminders in iOS 13 you're presented with the "upgrade" choice. Nothing visible has changed with the format of Reminders in Catalina or iOS 13 since September 2019. The latest update to Catalina is 10.15.6, released on 12 Aug 2020.


None of that has nothing to do with my situation, or probably anyone here. I think most everyone here talking about Reminders waking the Mac with DND set is on Catalina. The 10.5.6 update didn't change anything for me -- unless it mysteriously changed after being installed for 10+ days. Possible, but seems most unlikely. This problem doesn't occur for me at all on Mojave.


Again, can anyone else (who has experienced it) confirm whether the problem still exists?

Aug 31, 2020 1:46 AM in response to Old Toad

Does 'Safe Mode' allow things like Reminders and Notifications to run? I was under the impression that all those background processes were disabled to provide a really clean and 'safe' operating environment. In which case it would be expected that the problem would not manifest itself in Safe Mode. If the problem does still exist however, then it indicates the underlying sub-systems do run in Safe Mode and the problem is with Reminders and those associated sub-systems.


Not wanting to dismiss your suggestion as any further checking is worthwhile (at least to be able to confirm that with Apple), but I am not sure it would actually tell us anything useful. Is there something else you had in mind?

Aug 31, 2020 6:24 AM in response to UKenGB

No offense intended. I've not observed any change in Reminders in 13.6.1, nor is any documented. I would suggest that perhaps the update kick-started the iOS/iPadOS 13 alert to "upgrade" your reminders. Perhaps you have a list (or shared list) that wasn't upgraded previously when you installed 13.


My point was that a recent change isn't the cause of problems reported back to October 2019, and in my case, back to May 2020, which is what you seemed to suggest.


What exactly Safe Mode does isn't well documented, however it mainly stops certain software from loading at boot, in addition to cleaning up certain cache files. In practice it tends to not load 3rd party software. Apparently "Reminders/Notifications" are "required" from the reference below...

Safe mode prevents your Mac from loading certain software as it starts up, including login items, system extensions not required by macOS, and fonts not installed by macOS.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201262


This is a much deeper dive into Safe Mode:

https://eclecticlight.co/2019/11/08/safe-booting-in-catalina-has-changed/


This morning i verified that the Wake/Unlock problem continues for me. I have no idea why it didn't occur yesterday. I've packed up my log files and uploaded them to Apple. Hopefully this will help get some attention on this.


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