Time Machine Problems | Correct Usage.

Hey,


I always have two external USB drives that I use for time machine backups. Pretty much since it was launched in 2009.


Fortunately, I have never really had to use it. I have gone through a couple of Macs since. When changing Macs, I stop backing up to the old drives (for safe keeping) and have bought two new drives to initiate fresh backups on.


Now I had a Mac meltdown last weekend with a Catalina install gone wrong... After reinstalling Catalina from scratch I then tried to backup my TM. During the backup my laptop froze and one of my time machine drives was corrupted. I can no longer make new backups to that drive.


I can however launch the TM interface. Despite the drive being broken. I have been advised by an Apple chat advisor that doing this is not such a good idea.


So, that's great I have another TM drive with a practically identical set of backups on, only a couple of hours apart.


Unfortunately when I register the drive and launch the TM interface I cannot go back in time. I can see each incremental backup in red. I just can't open them.


I figure that it needs me to make a backup first. So I initiate a TM backup....


Now there's only 9GB of free space on this drive. TM didn't warn me about anything, I just know it has to delete stuff before it can do a new backup. But now it seems stuck on 'freeing up space'....


NOTICE: It was stuck there for about an hour. It has started backing up now. Total of 60GB.


Yes, this is the first initial backup of this reinstalled Catalina system over a Mojave system on the drive. SO I guess it's not so surprising that it is this large. Hopefully, this completes without an error.


So if this backup completes without error I am hoping I will be able to use the TM interface to go back in time to restore the data I would very much like to get back.


Anyhow, if you've read this far you're probably wondering what the question is.... Well, I have a few.


The work I really want to save is predominantly web development projects. Node Package Manager and Yarn based project. Yes, a lot of these are on GitHub. Certainly the important ones. But some experiments aren't.


Considering the corrupted drive still mounts and still seems to allow me to use TM interface would it be such a terrible idea to backup these files using the finder to go directly into the TM backup (the corrupted one) ?? Then copy and paste them across ??? I know that you're only meant to restore files using TM interface, but is it ever possible to copy and paste small documents from via the finder?


The advantage to doing it this way means I can leave the [node_modules] folder (which is usually quite large) and copy across the rest of the project. Going via restore would require me to copy the node modules. I know the drive is corrupted but we're probably talking about a couple of 100 MBs of JS files.


The main folder is only 8GB (most of that will be node_modules) but restoring via the uncorrupted TM would probably take quite a while.


I also have a lot of Wordpress installs via LocalByFlywheel. I think each of these will need to be manually reinstalled. I don't think it is going to be as simple as restoring the folders. I need to re-read their advice but if memory serves I have to create fresh sites and then copy the folder in. I guess it could be done via restore. But some of these also have NPM projects in them so are quite large with 100,000s of files.



Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I have always been very careful with my data and find myself in a situation that I have been preparing for years. But I don't feel particularly confident or in control of how this process really works.

Posted on Nov 2, 2019 7:10 AM

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Nov 2, 2019 11:39 AM in response to Mel0dymaker

Right, I have realised that I had left a hugely important detail out of this.


I was advised to to do a Disk Erase as I had a Catalina error last week after upgrade. Not sure this was great advice....


Which means Time Machine is initialising a new set of backups. Which is why it cannot go back to restore from the old Mojave snapshots. As it's a completely new system.


Apparently, it is okay to copy non-system data from a time machine via the finder. So Pdfs, JPGs, ect.


It is also okay to use my now corrupted time machine. As this still registers as if was part of the same system. So I can go back in time on it. I just can't make new backups on it.


Restores may fail, but TM shouldn't copy over anything corrupt.

Nov 2, 2019 8:09 AM in response to Mel0dymaker

Argh, I got the error above when trying to do a new TM backup on the second, good by first aid, disk.


I still am not able to use the TM interface to use the time machine backup...


I am researching, but any advice regarding how to get backup data safely off these drives would be great?!


Is it totally wrong to use the finder to look at tm backups and copy and paste files from them directly ?


As I have a corrupted backup that I have TM file access.


And the last time I checked, a healthy backup. That can't complete a backup of the new system.

Nov 2, 2019 10:07 AM in response to Mel0dymaker

Okay,


The time machine drive backed up on second attempt really quickly. I checked the error logs and couldn't find anything similar to other errors that people have mentioned.


So hooray, Catalina is now successfully backing up to this drive....


But no, I can't access any of the files from the Time Machine that we're on the final Mojave snapshot.


I can access them if I cmd shift C


But I cannot restore them as Macintosh HD is now Read Only.


This means when I try to access the Time Machine from Mojave none of the files can be stored as it it only lets me restore directly to the Macintosh HD. As opposed to say Home/Documents.


It's made all the more frustrating as I can see the files I want in the finder by looking through the TM folders. But I've always thought that you should never directly copy from there.

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