AirPods Pro adaptive EQ and high-frequency warble

The AirPods Pro are so far a bit hit-and-miss for me. Compared to the AirPods 2, I really like the silicone tips that now keep these earbuds in my ears—I had to use after-market add-ons to keep the AirPods 2 in place and sounding decent. I'd like to take advantage of both the Transparency and Noise-Reduction modes of the new AirPods Pro when I'm walking outside or in a noisy restaurant, but the Adaptive EQ screws things up. I'd love to use the features of the AirPods Pro, but just turn off the Adaptive EQ function or, as a compromise, freeze its settings after I've put the AirPods Pro in my ears. Here's the deal:


It seems the Adaptive EQ is doing it's best to figure out what EQ settings will be best for me by listening to the sound in my ear canal. Sure, it seems to work when sitting still, but the Adaptive EQ is always adapting—200 times per second according to Apple's promotional materials. I have to ask: Why? What is the point of changing the EQ up to 200 times per second? Doesn't it make more sense to just set the EQ when the AirPods Pro are inserted and then just leave it there? After all, my ears are my ears and don't really change much. It's not like these AirPods Pro are being swapped around between 200 different people with different ear profiles every second. It's just me wearing them without touching them.


The problem that happens is that, while walking, running, or even chewing food, these actions are causing small movements of either the AirPods Pro, the shape of my ear canal, or both. For example, with each footstep, the AirPods Pro might jiggle just a little bit. The super-sensitive Adaptive EQ seems to detect this as a change in my ear canal and attempts to quickly modify the EQ for that moment—a fleeting moment as the AirPods Pro go right back to their normal positions a faction of a second later.


When it comes to high frequency audio waves, 1/200th of a second is an eternity. While updating the EQ profile 200 times a second might be sufficient for transparently-adapting low frequencies, it's not good enough for adapting high frequencies. The result of this system is that there's this horribly-annoying warble or flutter in the high frequencies that's reminiscent of a worn-out cassette tape (remember those?) or MP3s encoded at really low bitrates with every step I take. If the music has exceptionally clear high-frequencies, like nice cymbals or very airy reverb, then this problem is extremely noticeable. The obvious test: just play back some white noise and try walking or chewing food with either the Transparency or Noise-Reduction modes on—you'll immediately hear the white noise start to flutter as the Adaptive EQ struggles to keep up with the tiny changes that are occurring in the ear canal.


But there's no point in the Adaptive EQ doing any of this. If you turn off the Noise-Reduction and Transparency modes, this also turns off the Adaptive EQ and then audio sounds absolutely fine! There's no weird warbling and audio sounds pretty darned good. I can walk and chew with no ill effects to the audio at all. So adapting the EQ in realtime isn't necessary at all for good sound and it would be a godsend to be able to turn that aspect of the AirPods Pro off—or at least isolate this feature to only the low-frequency ranges where the algorithm can keep up with changes in these longer waveforms.


For the time being, I can only use the Noise-Reduction mode when sitting at my desk in the office. This is a bit handy as it does reduce the ambient rumble in the place (though all high-frequency sounds—like the esses when people talk, for example—still come right through) but that's really the only place I can use it. Short of Apple allowing the option to disable this feature, I think I'm going to have to wait for some better third-party tips to come out, like the memory foam types that will fill more of the ear canal and hold the AirPods Pro more securely in place so they don't move when walking.


Anybody else hearing this problem?




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Posted on Nov 13, 2019 3:27 PM

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Posted on Apr 4, 2020 8:17 AM

I bought some cheap foam tips on Ebay. That limited the warble by at least 85-90%.

They are just one size, and they are a tad too small for me, so have to

work a little with it to get green ear tip fit test and good seal for

bass. But I do, and then sound is good,and warble gone.

So for me it had to be the silicone tips that moved in my ear when chewing/moving.


I look forward to try the Comply ones, when they are ready for shipment.

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Dec 8, 2019 4:36 PM in response to OmskInfo

I have the same issue of warbling, fluttering and muted crackling sounds in transparency and noise cancelling modes. "Normal Mode" is fine. I have tried all three sizes of tips and the same thing happens. It is isolated to the left Airpod for me though.


It would be great to hear whether Apple has identified this as an issue and if they have a fix.

Dec 11, 2019 9:06 AM in response to Guesty12

Thank you for this thread!!!

I can't walk over the floor in my apartment, at least not go for a walk / jog or even just chewing gum without the sound ruined by this "treble warble/fluctuations" phenomenon.

I thought I was crazy, or it was the fit of the APP in my ears, but after reading your post I'm now sure you're right.

This has to be fixed!!!

Dec 17, 2019 11:12 AM in response to OmskInfo

I really hope Apple representatives are reading what you are writing.

You are very good explaining this very annoying issue.

I called Apple and tried to explain the issue myself, but asked him to read your thread as well.

Thanks again for posting, and making me relax a little, knowing this is something not only my picky ears are hearing.

Dec 22, 2019 10:03 AM in response to OmskInfo

I’ve tried 3 pairs. All three exhibited a “fluttering” which is exactly how I described it as well. Or “rapid wafting”. It did it for me while just sitting at my desk. Creating a much tighter seal by pressing on the buds made it go away as does turning off noise cancellation but they sound awful with NC off and block 0 noise with almost a seashell like effect of white noise added.


I eventually found that, while both S & M sizes are comfortable And give a “good seal”, I had to use different sized tips in each ear to prevent it from happening in either so small tip in the left ear and medium in the right. The opposite would lead to fluttering in both and using both small or both medium tips would lead to fluttering in one of the two ears respectively. I suggest trying a mix of tips to get it to stop.


I ended up returning them for the 75t’s anyway though. ;-)

Dec 22, 2019 10:15 AM in response to smb8727

I think, with Airpods Pro, much depends on individual ear shape as far as seal, sound, comfort, and staying in ears. I found it best using large tips, not having to push far into ear canal for a good seal.


I guess I’ve been lucky - no fluttering or warbling, stay securely in ears during activity (even tennis) and sound quite good - and I’m a professional musician and somewhat of an audiophile. I love ‘em!

Jan 14, 2020 10:39 AM in response to skanter123

I have really been enjoying the 75t's but I had an urge to try the Airpod Pros again as they are slightly more comfortable and I don't know - I just feel like I should like them(??). I thought that using different ear tip sizes in each ear would resolve the problem and they seemed to be working great the first day - I was ready to keep them. Brought them to our office today and boom, the fluttering/faint muffling returned - turn your head exposing the microphones to a different area and it changes the muffling sound. It's most prevalent when listening to talk radio or videos. It has to be the noise cancellation overreacting (in my case to people talking, mice/keyboard clicking and our central air system white noise) - I don't recall experiencing this in a quiet setting - I no longer think the fit/seal of the buds is what causes it - its just a flat out software issue with the noise cancellation.


The Jabra 75t's officially reign supreme in my book. They connect and maintain connection as well as the Airpods, are considerably cheaper, sound fuller with a lot more (but modifiable) bass, have a higher IP rating, come with a 2 year warranty at no additional cost, are comfortable, have easier & more useful controls (volume controls) and they physically block out as much noise and even more so voices than the Airpod Pros with NC on - oh, and they don't have this annoying noise cancellation fluttering/muffling issue.

Jan 24, 2020 10:47 AM in response to OmskInfo

I am on my second set of AirPods Pros. This clicking problem, presumably with the adaptive EQ, started happening on both sets after I paired them to a second device. It’s clicking just in my right ear on both sets. I don’t see how pairing to multiple devices would make any difference to the AirPods internal EQ, but I thought I’d post my findings.

Feb 3, 2020 5:02 AM in response to KayneGiordano

I got a seal with S tips and Symbio foam. Maybe a little less warble actually, but still loud thumping while walking and too much treble warble. (Edit: with ANC ON, just to make clear)

Hope the (hopefully soon) forthcoming update will fix a little, and at least give the same bass with ANC OFF, so I can use the APPs walking/moving. Now it's just good for sitting still with ANC ON. :(


PS: I hope Comply will offer some good foam tips soon. On other in-ears, Comply foam always limits both thumping and changes in sound while chewing/moving etc. It also limits the "vacuum-feel" you have with silicone tips.

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