MacBook Pro 16" with LG 24" - not charging

Somehow I knew this was coming...

Just bought a new MBP 16" and connected it to my Apple Store-purchased LG 24" USB-C monitor. Contrary to what the "geniuses" at the Apple Store said and what is reported on https://www.apple.com/shop/product/HMUA2/lg-ultrafine-4k-display?fnode=4c - the MBP won't charge from the monitor, but instead the battery is draining.

Does "*For optimal performance on the 16-inch MacBook Pro, connect to power using the MacBook Pro 96W adapter." in fact mean that you have to connect the MBP to the supplied 96W adapter and "optimal performance" should have been written "to actually charge the 16-inch..."?


I have connected the MBP to one of the the two flash-marked USB-C ports of the monitor.


Anyone knows?

/Mattias

Posted on Nov 21, 2019 12:49 AM

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Posted on Dec 14, 2019 8:54 AM

A notebook Mac uses up to the entire output of the power adapter. If more is needed for intensive computation and processing, it freely "borrows" power from the battery. It does this on a moment by moment basis, and it generally is does not show you that this is happening. When you ask that particular high-powered notebook Computer to do graphics intensive operations, It may appear that the charge level on the battery is going down. That is because it IS going down.


Your computer is working as designed. If it did not "borrow" from the battery, the power adapter would have to be MUCH larger, or your ability to do computations would be severely throttled.


If you then proceed to use a power adapter (the one in the display) as the ONLY power adapter, and it provides LESS that the required capacity for the computer, unexpected things can happen. Apple recommends you use a power adapter rated at least as high as the original power adapter specified for the machine. Nothing else is considered acceptable.


In some cases, using a too-small power adapter will appear to work, but will draw down battery power very rapidly.


In extreme cases, your Mac could over-draw the available power. Over-drawing the available power will result in an emergency, uncontrolled power-down, as your Mac takes steps to save itself from damage.


The recommendation has always been, and continues to be, to connect a power adapter of at least the minimum specified for your computer. Apple does not provide any guidance for connecting multiple adapters, but Users report it works.


Find the right power adapter and cable for your Mac notebook - Apple Support


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Dec 14, 2019 11:03 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Grant,

I fully accept your logic if the computer was running heavily 100% of the time, requiring more than 85W of power.

However, my use case is software development where I spend long time working in an IDE and then do a compile. Compiling is mainly single-threaded so the CPU is not taxed much and only for a brief period of time, like a minute or two.

Just to test I have been running the MBP 16" on my old MBP's 87W Apple adapter without any problems this morning. With my normal workload (PHPStorm, Visual Studio Code, GirKraken, Chrome, mysql database tools and Slack) the battery is charging from the 87W adapter, indicated with the flash in the battery and percentage increasing and time until full decreasing. To test further, in this setup running on 87W I have disabled the automatic graphics switching and running on the 5300M card even though I don't have an external monitor. The computer is still charging.


My question from my original post still is: Why is connecting it to the 4K 24" LG monitor, providing 85W of power, not showing the flash in the battery icon and not charging the battery at all? I have been running that same screen almost a year with my 15" MBP (mid-2018 model), a computer that came with a 87W adapter (so the LG is still providing less than optimum power), without any problems.

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