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MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise

We are testing two new 16-inch MacBook's before doing a rollout across our organization. Under low loads (25% cpu utilization), fan noise will get annoyingly loud. We're not doing any GPU related and more routine work such as: using web applications, debugging web pages, Microsoft Teams conferencing (audio/video) with a handful of people, Photos downloading from iCloud, Mac Mail downloading a new mailbox from Exchange.


We DID NOT notice this on our 2015 MacBooks and this might prevent us from continuing the 16-inch MacBook rollout in our organization.


Interested to hear others experiences.


Tim

MacBook Pro 16", macOS 10.15

Posted on Nov 21, 2019 11:34 AM

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May 4, 2020 11:07 AM in response to TimUzzanti

Another similar story here. MBP 16", i7, 32GB RAM, and Radeon Pro 4GB graphics card. This machine is supposedly able to power two Pro Display XDRs, and yet when it’s connected to my single 4K dell monitor with only a few browser tabs open, the temperature is high and the fans spin all day long. Surely, this thing should be powerful enough to power a single middle-of-the-road display without getting hot? Please help us, Apple!

May 4, 2020 11:38 AM in response to thundernixon

It is powerful enough, but the GPU requires power to drive the screen, and power generates heat which the MBP 16 is handling by spinning up the fans.


Just because this happens that does not mean the MBP 16 is overloaded in any way, it's dealing with the heat generated as designed.


I get that you would prefer it run cooler or more quietly, and if possible, Apple will address that, but it's not that it's not powerful enough.

May 4, 2020 12:27 PM in response to thundernixon

We are in the process of returning all our 16inch MBP's. We have purchased Windows Laptops to replace all the hardware. The new 13inch MBP's might be a better option for customers compared to these 16inch MBP's as it only has Integrated Graphics and won't have the flaws related to the AMD dGPU. This would be our suggestion to our customers that REALLY want a Mac. Otherwise, we are advising customers not to purchase Apple Laptops at this time based on the overall experience with the hardware, customer support, and this community. The customer doesn't to have a voice anymore relating to Mac side of the business.

May 4, 2020 12:32 PM in response to TimUzzanti

TimUzzanti wrote:

The customer doesn't to have a voice anymore relating to Mac side of the business.


The customer has the loudest voice possible when it comes to Macs: they can choose to purchase or not.


If customers don't buy their products, Apple goes away. You can't get more power than that.


The fact that the Apple Business team has bent over backwards to allow you to return your machines way, way past the 14 day return limit is in itself a sign of extreme customer focus.

May 4, 2020 12:33 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

That is not true. We have USB-C to USB-C, USB-C to Display Port, USB-C to HDMI all with the same results. The only ways we reduced heat was with Clamshell mode and eGPU or artificially reduce the CPU performance. Unless customers like throwing more and more money at their 16inch MBP's to get them to work as advertised, its not an option.


The issue can be easily replicated with any 16inch MBP. Apple see's the issue but doesn't acknowledge the issue.

May 4, 2020 12:39 PM in response to Dogcow-Moof

William Kucharski wrote:

The fact that the Apple Business team has bent over backwards to allow you to return your machines way, way past the 14 day return limit is in itself a sign of extreme customer focus.

I think the fact that Tim and his team spent valuable time evaluating the product, trying every way possible to push for a solution - or even just a response to say there is an issue here we will fix it - tells a lot more about the situation here.


There was no solution offered and what is worse is there is no acknowledgement of the issue, let alone someone saying that they are working on a fix within a proper timeframe. That is the opposite of customer focus, that is ignoring the customer.

May 4, 2020 12:39 PM in response to Dogcow-Moof

Apple Business Team acknowledged the issues we showed them and increased our return policy because they said Apple had a 3 month period after new products to resolve odd issues. As time went on the Apple Business Team stopped acknowledging the issues and said "you might want to try a Mac Pro" to connect external monitors.


That is the insanity of this situation. Each and every department in including the community has walked backed the problem and doesn't discuss it and tries to suggestion switching to another product line. Its crazy!


That is the opposite of customer service!

May 4, 2020 12:50 PM in response to TimUzzanti

You stubbornly ignored the advice of said Apple Business team when they suggested a machine better suited to your use case. I realize there are differences in form factor and price that made that solution non-optimal to you, but it is what it is. We've gone around and around on that - the MBP 16 certainly is capable of doing many things, but it's not necessarily the best tool for the job.


Once again, you can't get better customer service than a company extending their own written return period to make you, the customer happy. You'll find most PC vendors would have told you in the same situation to sell your machines on the used market. I can connect you with people who have been told just that by companies in the PC marketplace whose names are two, three and four letters long.


Ultimately, your road has come to the end, and it's too bad your firm will now have to deal with Windows. Don't be surprised when those PCs start firing up their fans.

May 4, 2020 12:48 PM in response to DPJ

And we have gone through 20+ laptops and paused Company Wide purchases for months and spent thousands of dollars on peripherals such as eGPU's etc. so people could use the 16inch MBP's in the meantime as we attempted to provide whatever information Apple needed to fix the issues.


Do you not think this cause us a ton of trouble?


When companies commit to a vendor they like to stay with that vendor. The problem with Apple is, when the screw up, there is no other vendor to get MacOS from. When you built infrastructure to cater to one Operating System or another its a big shift. This experience should give companies major pause when choosing Apple moving forward.


For a consumer, little less concern but when you build out corporations, this is a huge problem!

May 4, 2020 12:49 PM in response to TailsDog

TailsDog wrote:

There was no solution offered and what is worse is there is no acknowledgement of the issue, let alone someone saying that they are working on a fix within a proper timeframe. That is the opposite of customer focus, that is ignoring the customer.


A full refund way beyond the written return period is incredible customer focus. Try finding that with most any other consumer product, or for that matter from a PC vendor. An integrator or third party reseller would likely be willing to take that hit, but try calling the vendor of your PC laptop to complain that the fans are running too fast and the internal temperature of their laptop is too high for your tastes.

May 4, 2020 12:52 PM in response to AlejandroKL

AlejandroKL wrote:

I totally agree, customer service should be trying to find a solution with the client instead just trying to switch or deny there is a big issue with this machine, I really want to use my external monitors for designing with my new macbook but I cant, even the keyboard gets really hot


1) Place the MBP 16 out of direct earshot in an area with good airflow

2) Get long USB cables, connect an external keyboard and mouse or trackpad to your MBP 16

3) Connect a long cable to your external monitor


There's your workaround.

MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise

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