MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise

I'm stating a hard fact, I am not attacking anyone.

You said "I'm sick of people here" I am saying there are people here that can not return, that is a matter of fact.

If you are sick of people here then I would suggest you don't frequent this thread.

DPJ ,

I understand you are feeling sick about people quoting how much money they've spent on there machines ... Blah blah blah

But your capricious outbursts feelings and emotional rants are off topic.

Please stick to facts and issues regarding the topic.

We. are a friendly community and people are trying to work together to find solutions regarding ‘ fan/ heating related issues ‘

we all appreciate your passion and useful

advise but we have to stick to the topic :)

thank you kind sir

Exactly! That's how Apple has always advertised their products. It's always been about performance comparatives which makes sense. They've never advertised their newer GPU's to run cooler and not cause fans to elevate.

That would be incorrect. The Vega 20 is closer to the AMD Radeon 5300. Many tests have been shown that the 5300 is either on par or in some cases more powerful than the Vega 20. The 5500 is a far more powerful card and the Vega 20 is nowhere close to it. 😊

I wonder if there’s a statement that dpj wouldn’t try to argue :) dpj, people are still waiting for screenshots, showing how perfectly your mac runs :) and the one that you did, not the one from reddit? I bet its hard to make one when you only dream about computer in question but please give it a try?

You and DJP keep changing the subject to your convenience, you said in your previous post the word powerful, now that doesn’t count, because I told you about a card is that almost as powerful as the 5500 or 5300 with the difference that a simple thing like connecting an external monitor doesn’t turn the machine into a vacuum.

"Guys :) If you put strong CPU with dGPU into a thin machine don't expect that everything works fine. Don't expect long life span either "

You're stating something as fact and that's not factual at all. There's been no known reports of MacBook Pro's with shorter life spans based on design.

Yes. I know I don’t have reports behind. Nonetheless this is common truth for all electronic devices - increased heat shortens their life span. I think MBP are included.

there are some articles, first from the search results:

http://www.apiste-global.com/enc/technology_enc/detail/id=1262

Hi there,

I am also observing this thread since it was started, and me too I‘m still thinking of buying one. But to be honest- I‘m not sure if I should...

I am even thinking about if it would be the smaller problem to buy a 2019 15,4“ MBP, but there is still the issue with the butterfly keyboard. Not sure which problem is the worse...

Indeed after all the posts I have the question left, if the purchase of two new displays with accepting to work in clamshell mode could guarantee, that the fan speed would stay low when only connecting the display(s).

So can anyone make a suggestion if connecting two of these via DP and setting the refresh rate to 144 Hz could cause a „quiet idling“ in clamshell mode?

https://www.notebooksbilliger.de/hp+24x+gaming+display+620046?nbb=8f14e4&nbbct=4004_idealo

I still didn‘t get for sure how I can notice the difference between legacy/heartbeat-refresh displays and other ones...

Please excuse, that my english isn‘t that good, I‘m not a native speaker.

Thanks so far - I have read about all the issues different users are having with those machines. Indeed I read everything in this Thread... ;)

Thats why I am asking those specific questions.

Plugging in 2 screens with 144 Hz via DP, would this probably cause the problems or would it not? Or can‘t that be said...

Most of the electronic parts will be fine, but one of the main enemies of li-po/li-ion batteries is heat, it shortens the lifespan considerably. So keeping the batteries in higher temperatures most of the day (due to the elevated temperature even if idle) will shorten the lifespan. There are some tables and scientific research that can answer how much. The battery will definitely last 2-3 years even in these conditions, but it will be in worse shape. I don't dare to give an estimate.

What you're speculating doesn't turn into reality. You have to consider the way Apple channels the heat around the MacBook Pro on the inside. Unless you're part of Apple's engineering team creating the MacBook Pro you cannot make blanket statements here with theories based on "scientific research".

I'm honestly not sure why you're arguing about something you cannot prove when it comes to the MacBook Pro, especially the current one. I've been a dedicated Mac user for 25 years and I've had a truck load of Apple laptops and heat has always been discussed (which is typical for laptops, not sure why people expect laptops not to get hot?) and my batteries have always lasted at least 5 years without issue and I'm a power user running Final Cut Pro and I do audio production with Logic Pro X. Heat is something I've always experienced and has never affected my computers other than causing fans to blow as they should.

Once again please refrain from speculating. It's against the rules here.

"but this is not the discussion here, the problem here is that by just connecting an external monitor the machine will get really hot"

Right, you've said that many times. 😉

"So whatever the reason for this problem, software/driver/hardware if you use common sense you can agree that it shouldn't behave like that."

That was not the discussion I was having with the other poster. We were discussing his "theory" of the MacBook Pro's life span shortening due to heat.

" To William Kucharski, DPJ and others alike: there is a reason why everyone in this thread got the urge to Google the possibility of this being an issue and end up here. "

" Thank you for putting in the time and reading this long comment,"

TLDR; But the only reason I'm replying is because you put my name in your post suggesting that I am telling people they have no right to speak. I've never said any of the sort. What I've been arguing about is people making non-factual blanket statements that the heat generated and the fans blowing is shortening the life of the MacBook Pro. There are no known reports of this in the last 10+ years of Apple's history and Apple's laptops have always generated a great deal of heat. So please when you use my name in your posts don't suggest things I never stated.

DPJ,

We appreciate your expertise but your capricious treatment of others on this forum is very uncalled for. Let’s stick to subjects related to this particular thread : )

Please understand we are discussing things

and trying to find answers for our fan/ heating issues with our MBP 16 inch..

TalisDog Raimiss Thank you for all your hard work!!