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MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise

We are testing two new 16-inch MacBook's before doing a rollout across our organization. Under low loads (25% cpu utilization), fan noise will get annoyingly loud. We're not doing any GPU related and more routine work such as: using web applications, debugging web pages, Microsoft Teams conferencing (audio/video) with a handful of people, Photos downloading from iCloud, Mac Mail downloading a new mailbox from Exchange.


We DID NOT notice this on our 2015 MacBooks and this might prevent us from continuing the 16-inch MacBook rollout in our organization.


Interested to hear others experiences.


Tim

MacBook Pro 16", macOS 10.15

Posted on Nov 21, 2019 11:34 AM

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Apr 20, 2021 7:53 PM in response to tanatub

Your "reasonable" isn't necessarily others'.


Why are you using your external monitor for a Zoom call, but of course it's up to you.


I have mentioned time and time again I can run full 1080P video all day on a Dell U2717D at 2560x1440 via mDP and my fans never even turn on. In fact I've never heard my fans except during a software update, and even then they're not what I would call "loud" - noticeable yes, loud no.


For example, after 30 minutes of playing 1080p video full screen on the external monitor via mDP while reading Apple Discussions on the laptop display, my fans were barely above 2400 RPM, and were completely inaudible to me:



Why would Apple "acknowledge" it? Once again, you're taking a parameter - fan noise - and acting like Apple promised the device would be silent; they did not.


Did the Mac shut down during that Zoom call? Did it overheat and tell you it needed to cool down? Or did it just ramp up its fans as needed because you decided to place the call on an external monitor for whatever reason?


I think the fact that if I open the Settings panel on an HP Spectre x360 with just the screen open it eventually ramps up the fans to be even more of an issue than anything I've ever seen the MBP 16 do.


I get it, you don't like it, and perhaps you will choose a Windows laptop next time, but you'll largely face the same issues as the prime heat generators are the graphics chip and the processor - something that will likely change in a big way when the larger Apple Silicon MacBook Pros hit the street.

Nov 2, 2021 11:12 AM in response to Sergei_Usatov

@Sergei_Usatov - Based on your comment, I unplugged my eGPU and directly plugged in my LG Ultrafine 5K via thunderbolt and my LG 4K via HDMI (and also via USB-C) to see what would happen. It appears that Monterey 12.0.1 has significantly improved the experience!!!


First experiment: Just plugging in the LG 5K, I'm seeing temps around 65-70C, Radeon high side about 14-16v, and fan speeds at a very acceptable 35% 40% speed. Fan noise is very low. I've got multiple chrome windows open, running a Youtube video, and a handful of other low-impact applications.


Second Experiment: Adding my LG 4k monitor (for a total of two external monitors running at the same time) doesn't raise metrics by much. Note: I have scaling turned on for the 4K to match the display size of my 5k and I do have the HDR option turned off.


When I plug in the second monitor, temps spike momentarily, but then drop down to 70-75C, Radeon high side is about 18v, and fan speeds are about 50-60%. Again, that feels very acceptable for having the AMD Radeon Pro 5500M powering two external monitors. I get similar performance using a USB-C cable for this second monitor as I do using an HDMI connected via the Apple dongle.


One final note, I seem to get slightly better performance by running one monitor off the left bus / ports and the other on the right side bus / ports. I recall Apple specifically stating you have to use this configuration for multiple 5k monitors.


I'll keep running this setup for a while to see how it reacts. I still need to try out some video conferencing (Zoom) and other applications to see how the system handles it, but right now I'm very satisfied.


Here are the stats with both LG5k Ultrafine and standard 4K LG monitors connected running Chrome, YouTube, and a few other apps:

Nov 25, 2021 2:44 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Hi Grant


They are a different beasts altogether and share none of the loud fan noise issues. I have not heard the fan start once in the 29 days I have had it and rarely warm to touch.


However until Apple make some fixes to the MacOs there are plenty of other issues to be mindful of.


This probably has a lot to do with Apple rushing the Monterey release to coincide with the new M1 Macs and also 3rd party apps not being properly optimised even if they say they are.


The other day when using safari / mail and messages I had the m1 Max to 100% at 9 am and by 12:00 pm it was down to 48 % and only basic safari activity no watching or streaming.


And yesterday I watched Control Centre gobble up a massive 32 Gb of ram and Lightroom over 60 gb just when browsing in grid view.


Apple for years have delivered Mac Book Pros that leave a user shortchanged - Now they have really stepped up but as they did dropped the ball on the OS








and safari tab groups randomly reset themselves to a cloud session version even if your half way through something and external displays have 2 issues - editing Andy settings of displays reset HDR for an HDMI connected display - usual sluggish laggy issues but definitely better than previous generations.

Dec 16, 2019 8:56 AM in response to Mattias Sandstrom

I did a complete OS reinstall and just watched some YouTube in Safari with the two monitors connected and installed iStats menu. It didn't take long until the fans were up to 3300 rpm and stayed there. Just watching YouTube in Safari. When doing the same thing in my Mac mini the fan went up around 2200 and then quickly went back down to around 1700. And the mini had lots of apps installed.

I installed Lightroom and just viewed some RAW photos taken with Olympus MFT camera the fans went up to over 4000 and stayed there until I quit Lightroom. Did the same thing on the mini, the fan stayed at around 2000 and went up in spikes when doing some editing, but quickly went back down.

This is incredible. The mini costs almost a third of the Macbook. I'll just upgrade my mini with an eGPU and more RAM, and it'll be an amazing machine.

My mini is the base i5 with 8GB RAM, the Macbook is the base i7 with 16GB RAM.

Dec 18, 2019 1:38 AM in response to TimUzzanti

I connect an external display and at minimum load (normal Safari surfing) the fan speed rises 3000rpm-4000rpm. The sound of the fans is very audible and annoying. The lower part of the body under the Touch Bar, in the middle is very hot. Using a laptop without an external display does not solve the problem, the cooler also work at high speeds with minimal load.


MacBook Pro 16" Intel Core i7, 32Gb, 512Gb, AMD Radeon Pro 5500M 4Gb


Display DELL UltraSharp u2719dc 27" (2560×1440, 60Hz)

Dec 18, 2019 7:57 AM in response to Mattias Sandstrom

The lid is closed but actually it does not matter. Sometimes, the lid is open and I'm working on 1x 32" EV3285 at 3360x1890 (60Hz) and the fans are also spinning like crazy.


I just restarted and opened Safari again and right now, it's pretty silent. Maybe something is going crazy when you have not restarted the system for a long time? I will observe it.

MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise

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