So if the signal drop is caused by the hand physically blocking antennae...

was i the 'bully' that interrupted you?

I was helping you.

you can 1: use the tape and if that solves your problem, then it is HIGHLY LIKELY that the case will as well, since the electrical insulation is greatly affected by the distance between the 2 conductors, the case being much thicker than the tape. Consumer Reports (the source of this problem for many) agrees with this assessment.

2: As i said earlier, return the phone and purchase something that you ARE satisfied with since you "can't do without".

3: don't hold it that way <tongue in cheek>

Allan Sampson wrote:

So no matter what anyone does to you, you will let it happen and not protest?

Nope. I'm not a lover, I'm a fighter, and will gladly go to jail to beat a person's brains in - or lack thereof that needs and deserves it.

Time to stand up for yourself. If this is a real issue, demand it be fixed.

Chuck you. If I had the problem, I would return my iPhone for payment credit.

I just posted evidence that it's a real issue. I challenge you to present a well reasoned argument that refutes my claims.

You didn't post squat. If you have a problem which you don't believe affects any other phone in the smart phone category, RETURN YOUR IPHONE FOR PAYMENT CREDIT. Don't walk, run to receive full payment credit.

Time to stand up for yourself. If you have the problem and keep your iPhone longer than 30 days, you have yourself to blame only.

Well said Allan

Phil,

That is the problem. These guys that are complaining have no idea how RF works and think that the iphone 4 is the only one that has this problem. Apparently they didn't watch the video when they showed 3 popular smart phones doing the same exact bar drop when you give it the death grip. Simple fact is with internal or even external antennas you will get attenuation by wrapping your hand around it. Simple RF physics.

BTW are you a ham? Noticed your user name is W7OX which is a ham call.

Greg

AvgGuy wrote:
What good is offering a free case or bumper now to the folks that got our phones on Launch Day ? ? The case/bumper won't be available for a week or so, but that will after after our 30 day return date. Nice timing Steve to screw your customers again. The arrogance of this company is unmatched.

Then buy one now and turn the receipt in to get reimbursed for the bumper. Simple as that.

51Cards wrote:

rbrylawski wrote:
Good Lord.......so if you put a metal piece inside (say a paper clip) the earphone piece on another phone, wouldn't it affect the antenna? So, now people are going to start complaining that they've inserted metal pieces into their iP4 phone and it made the signal drop????? You can't be serious, can you???

No it wouldn't because the antenna is not exposed. It proves that it's a contact issue with the antenna, not a shielding issue like Apple is trying to make it appear.

Nah really? That is exactly what Steve said today in his press conference. That is the reason they are giving free bumpers or cases away so the contact issue is a moot point. You Apple bashers are really reaching for stuff now.

And when are you going to understand it does NOT take a death grip, or even having your hand around the phone. All it takes is to lightly touch that little bar. That does not happen on the other phones.

Allan Sampson wrote:

Only after all the negative press... If it weren't for all the complainers and press, they would have sat on their @sses and just laughed at their customers.

Baloney. This is one clueless statement and if you truly believe this, why on earth do you have an iPhone?

Allen I bet he doesn't have one. Nothing in his signature line indicates he has an iphone 4.

Greg

"These guys that are complaining have no idea how RF works..."

What's worse, most of the whiners have never seen the problem UNTIL it was demonstrated, and now the world is over as they know it. Big tears. Their gormless patois is annoying, and indicates how the public school system is failing miserably.

carl wolf wrote:
"These guys that are complaining have no idea how RF works..."

What's worse, most of the whiners have never seen the problem UNTIL it was demonstrated, and now the world is over as they know it. Big tears. Their gormless patois is annoying, and indicates how the public school system is failing miserably.

Wow what offensive generalization. I noticed it within an hour of the turning on the new phone, then started trying to figure it out, and narrowed it down to the black bar BEFORE there was a lot of write up. And I have a pretty good idea how RF works.

So how does that fit within your little theory?

AvgGuy wrote:
Back to a civil conversation after being interrupted by another Apple Fanboy Bully:

If the solution is not good enough a lot of people will return the phone and he won't be laughing all the way to the bank.

There's not time to test the solution out for many of us. We can't wait for the apple provided case or bumper before our 30 day return window expires. There's no guarantee that if a piece of tape works, that a bumper or case would too. This is my Primary phone, no land line and I can't do without.

Then return it now and quit complaining. You can use the refund you get to buy a crappy android phone that looks like crap and is much more difficult to navigate the menus on. I know because my wife has one that has android on it and it ***** trying to get anywhere on that phone. You keep complaining about the window closing but if it closes it is only your fault for waiting.

The bumpers are sold out, but it doesn't matter so don't waste your time.

Don't know about you, but I for one don't purchase a product from any company I don't respect at least somewhat and/or trust. These paid shills and Microslop sheep are calling Steve Jobs arrogant, but how soon they forget everything they do with that swiss cheese for security operating system is because of him - everything.

Not happy with it - return it. Winblows doesn't come anywhere near my Mac much less being installed - worried I would get sick just having that garbage in my house, but I don't spend time at Microslop discussions asking how did someone become the richest man in the world peddling that garbage, and getting to their position by what has been determined and proven in courts in the U.S. and throughout the world via illegal means with what has amounted to a slap on the wrist.

Nancy,
Did I post "ALL of the users"?

AvgGuy wrote:
And when are you going to understand it does NOT take a death grip, or even having your hand around the phone. All it takes is to lightly touch that little bar. That does not happen on the other phones.

DID YOU NOT PAY ATTENTION TO THE VIDEO. STEVE ADMITTED THAT TOUCHING IT THERE DROPS BARS. WHY DO YOU THINK THEY ARE OFFERING FREE CASES. Talking to you is like talking to a brick wall, only the brick wall is smarter.

You sure are a blind iSheep/fanboy. They have been fighting for Steve the entire day. Listen fanboy. If Joe buys an iPhone 3GS In June 2009, and likes it a lot, he will get an iPhone 4. But He choses to sell the iPhone 3GS to get an iPhone 4. So he spends his $$$ on a POS iPhone 4. He then has this antenna issue, and never had it on his 3GS. He can return it, but be with out an iPhone. Why did Apple release such a flawed POS to begin with? Shouldn't Joe be able to trust a 60 billion dollar company that makes stuff "just work"? BTW, I don't have the antenna issues with my 3GS, but when using an iPhone 4, I get the antenna issues. Even if I'm in the same location. Also, I do grip the other phones that Apple claims have the same isue, and yes the bars drop. However they drop 1 or 2 bars. The iPhone 4 even with iOS 4.0.1 drops from 4 to "Searching" and the call is dropped. AND the 3GS doesn't do that even in the same location, nor do other phones. I've tried to cup other phones with no luck dropping the call. With the magical POS iPhone 4, a simple dive will bridge the antennas dropping the call to Searching. Gripping does the same. I tested this on 8 iPhones at the Apple Store. Get your head out of your ***. This is a real issue. You fanboys/iSheep believe everything SJ says. Pathetic people.

Allen,

You also forgot that Micorslop stole the idea for the mouse from Apple. Now before you microslop fans say Apple stole it from Xerox PARC then you need to do some research. Apple bought a large share of Xerox at the time and they got to look at the system that PARC had developed which was a GUI mouse driven system. Xerox was about to shelf that system as something they thought would not sell. Steve took it and ran with it but when he let Bill Gates have a few systems to write software for it, Microsoft ended up stealing it for their own windows operating system. Also MS screwed IBM too because they were writing OS/2 for IBM but basically stopped when they started writing windows. OS/2 was a much better OS for the PC when IBM finally brought it out. It put Windows to shame. Off topic I know but wanted to make sure the microslop fanboys know the facts.