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Jarmurmursz Author

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Are we allowed to use some emojis that were inserted in an app from Apple’s iPhone keyboard and import the result into Final Cut Pro adding other effects to the footage and posting it on YouTube?

Hello folks!

I was wondering, are we allowed to use some emojis that were inserted in an app from Apple’s Iphone keyboard AND then import the result into Final Cut Pro And add other effects to the footage, which it’s entirety will be posted on YouTube?

Basically I have an app on my iPhone which lets me insert emojis with the text. Then I export it to my phone’s library where Then I imported it in Final Cut Pro.

I know we are allowed to use emojis from Final Cut Pro by doing ctrl-CMD-Space bar and selecting the emojis we want.

But in my case the emojis originated from mummy phone’s app.

They all look the same but just asking what the legalities are.

Also, 2nd part question, (pertaining to if the above is illegal) can I use emojis from my iphone’s keyboard and then blur them in final cut?

thanks for all feedback

roberto

[Re-Titled by Moderator]

Posted on Dec 3, 2019 12:43 PM

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Jarmurmursz Author

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Dec 31, 2019 5:49 PM in response to fox_m

Ok Less....

I kept the emojis the way they are from Apple and gave them credit burned in the credits of the film at the end.

Spoke to other people and read some articles and it’s too much of a grey zone. One guy said Apple does own the emoji set but they haven’t gone after anyone for using them in their content which is what I am doing.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/46huwb/can_you_use_emojis_in_your_videos/

I even spoke to the guy at bretfx and he doesn’t even know where his own emojis come from, as I think he mentioned they are the ones of the OS which comes down to the same issue.

https://www.bretfx.com/text-message-2-tutorial/

the only way to abide strictly to this problem is to buy them completely out of any OS’s ownership and key frame them in next to my texts in Final Cut Pro... if I ever get flagged that’s what I will do.

thanks so much for your help Less .... I appreciate it !

bob

Jarmurmursz Author

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Dec 31, 2019 7:35 PM in response to Jarmurmursz

Oh yeah and here’s the reply I got straight from Apple’s legal department:

Thank you for replying.

I would like to confirm one more thing. Can we use the emojis from Final Cut Pro directly in our music videos which will be monetized?

here’s what they said:

Hi Roberto,

Thank you for your inquiry. Requests to use Apple’s copyrighted emojis are reviewed on a case-by-case basis by the appropriate teams at Apple Inc. After careful consideration, your request has been declined.

We wish you well, and we thank you for your consideration in contacting us.

Best regards,

Rights and Permissions Team

Apple Inc. - IP & Licensing

permissions@apple.com

REF:ks

what do we make out of that LOL

🤷🏻‍♂️

fox_m

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12,595 points

Dec 31, 2019 8:17 PM in response to Jarmurmursz

I'm really sorry to hear that and I apologize for leading you on. This really surprises me. It sounds like a "blanket" response and they didn't really review anything. Everybody else in the world will use them without thinking about it (****, some people don't write in anything BUT emoji), but since *you* asked, they got to send you their pre-packaged response letter. (And now you have to comply.) Now, I think, I'd really like to see somebody take this issue to the Supreme Court. I'm now very interested in what their response would be.

Jarmurmursz Author

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Jan 1, 2020 1:01 PM in response to fox_m

I wish people would stop using textbook answers. I’m looking for an answer along the lines of:

yes you are allowed to use our generated emojis in your videos and you are allowed to publish them on YouTube and amazon for monetizations and Commercial use!!!!

now is that so difficult !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Im really angry with mush mash of emojis .....

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Jarmurmursz Author

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Jan 1, 2020 5:43 PM in response to fox_m

Nice font Less!

You know if you go after them it could be an open and shut case. My lawyer told me, in today’s world, corps are hiring people just to scrutinize the web for all sorts of infringements from logos to emojis to music and video and images etc....

I understand the drollery of the emojis infringement mystery! But for me there is light at the end of the tunnel...

i have downloaded an app from the App Store called Emoji Crack from piZap. It has nice aminos that will do the trick.

piZap gave me the permission to use them so long as I credit him in the films credits. In his email he clearly stipulates that I can use the emojis that I create with piZap applications in my monetized YouTube video and I’m allowed to sell it on amazon.

so now I’ve got it in black and white so if there is something I at least have something to show in my défense!

later Less....

thanks for everything

fox_m

Level 6

12,595 points

Jan 1, 2020 6:40 PM in response to Jarmurmursz

The really weird thing about *that* font — I didn't think anything would ever come of it. It's butt-ugly. It was just "practice", but I put it up because it was really different than anything else (at the time). It got "picked up" by a contributor to MacWorld magazine and all of a sudden... it was "legitimized" ("Cheap Laser Fonts" http://fxmahoney.com/resume/macworld1087p87p89.png). If you look around, you can find a lot of knockoffs... Sometimes I just don't "get" what some people are going to like... Maybe you can imagine, how stunned I was to see it on TV!

Now if you read that article, there is mention of two fonts I made back then: Calligraphic and Times Fractions. They were shareware, so I'm not sure if that made them commercial or not (shareware is based on contributions to basically "keep up the good work" and not so much a purchase of a product). Anyway, those fonts were "resident" inside the printer. My fonts basically rearranged some of the letters to create a different effect. I didn't explicitly "copy" the character "programming" (PostScript). The software I used allowed for "composite characters". Copyright infringement? Possibly. But they only had value to those individuals who had access to the specific hardware (LaserWriter/LaserWriter Plus); everybody know which fonts they actually were; etc... I never heard anything from anyone about it — and it was published right there in black and white for everyone to read. Of course the 1980's were the "wild west" where computers and software were concerned. Sometimes it seems like it's a new world every day... and it just keeps getting more complicated.

Emoji Crack looks like a decent app!

... and basically what I said: put the credits in the video! [It should have been enough for whatever emoji you used.]

At least you are conscientious enough to go through the trouble! 99.9% of the world wouldn't even bother.

Good luck with your videos! Knock 'em dead! (I'm gettin' old... I don't even know if you can say that anymore... LOL)

Jarmurmursz Author

Level 1

4 points

Jan 1, 2020 9:47 PM in response to fox_m

Yeah I hear ya I think we’ve both been through a lot in the computer game since the 80’s or before,,,, I remember starting out on a comador 64 with basic programming language and then moving up to C and C++ and oooooffff so many others.

if you’d like hit me up at:

mynewemail@bell.net

so I can have your email so

when my video gets publicized I will give you the Youtube link ..... LOL

Nice chatting with you Less

oh and happy new year.... 2020... wish you the best start of a new decade and beyond !

roberto

fox_m

Level 6

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Jan 1, 2020 11:04 PM in response to Jarmurmursz

You're dating yourself...LOL. Me too. I started with a Timex/Sinclair 1000; BASIC, machine language !!!! (I absolutely LOVED the z80). When IBM went with the Intel 8088 (what an mediocre chip!) I went to Apple IIe. Also BASIC and machine language. When the Mac came around - BASIC and Pascal, then C... I never could stand C++. To this day I think it was junk. I had already "invented" my own object oriented programming inside C. I could also use it to write Assembly language (I was writing low level "drivers" for MIDI applications.) Then the internet went public and I switched over to Java (first!) then Javascript, then PHP... That's about where I stopped, although I did pull off an adaptation of a Perl script once. I wish I could bring myself to spend some time with ObjC... I have a couple of things I'd really love to have for Motion, but I just cannot bring myself to dive in. It's worse (to me) than C++.

I'll drop you a line — I'd like to see what your video is about.

Happy New Year! Thanks for the wish — may you have the same!

Fox

Jarmurmursz Author

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Dec 4, 2019 8:23 AM in response to fox_m

Ok I think you very much for putting me at ease!

roberto

Jarmurmursz Author

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Dec 4, 2019 2:46 PM in response to saliustripe

Ok Less thanks,

so using them in a music video that will be posted on YouTube and perhaps monetized is Ok?

thanks

Jarmurmursz Author

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Dec 4, 2019 5:13 PM in response to Tom Wolsky

Thank you Less

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Jarmurmursz Author

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Jan 2, 2020 7:44 AM in response to fox_m

I got your email .... ✌️

Are we allowed to use some emojis that were inserted in an app from Apple’s iPhone keyboard and import the result into Final Cut Pro adding other effects to the footage and posting it on YouTube?