16-inch MacBook Pro Bluetooth issue

I bought the new 16-inch MacBook Pro when it first came out and was happily using it until a week later my bluetooth stopped discovering devices, in particular my Magic Mouse and iPhone. I tried everything from resetting nvram, smc, resetting the bluetooth module, removing bluetooth.plist, downloaded bluetooth explorer and reset a bunch of settings etc and even went to the extent of completely formatting the computer and installing osx from scratch to no avail. Hardware diagnostics showed no hardware issues as well. The bluetooth device was showing up fine in System Report but it just wasn't discovering anything. I have a work laptop (2017 MacBook Pro) which I use side by side and it was working fine.


Long story short, I was able to replace the device at the Apple store I bought it at since it was within the 14 day return policy window. So I put it down to just being unlucky.


It's been a few weeks since then and I now have the same issue with the replacement laptop. This time though I think I know what triggered it.


I have a CalDigit dock that I use for my work laptop and occasionally have a usb bluetooth device attached to it for some work I do in virtual machines. The issue occurred when I connected my new MacBook to the dock along with the bluetooth dongle. The usb bluetooth dongle worked fine however when I disconnected the thunderbolt dock from the MacBook I noticed the bluetooth icon in the top right hand corner changed to an icon with a zigzag across it, obviously due to bluetooth device being disconnected.


Since disconnecting the external bluetooth device I'm having the same issue as I had previously, my MacBook Bluetooth device won't find any devices and is not recognized by other bluetooth devices like my iPhone/other MacBooks. I've gone through the whole process as before, and have resorted to a clean install of osx to no avail. I've even compared bluetoothd console logs between the working MacBook I have and the now broken one, the only difference is the working MacBook is able to detect devices when they are advertised, whereas the MacBook Pro 16-inch does not.


Digging into this, it seems as though OSX by default switches to any attached USB bluetooth device when it's plugged in and then when disconnected, it reverts back to the onboard device. This works fine on my old MacBook as I've been using the USB dongle for a while now without any issues. I initially thought that there may be a software issue with the internal bluetooth device not switching back properly but I would have thought a clean install would have fixed it so there must be some sort of hardware issue specifically with the new MacBook Pro 16-inch.


I'm pretty frustrated now as I've now gone through two 16-inch MacBook Pro's with bricked bluetooth devices that I'm fairly certain was caused by connecting an external bluetooth dongle via thunderbolt. I'm pretty sure onboard devices shouldn't die just because a third party device was connected/disconnected.


Has anyone come across this yet with the new MacBook Pro 16-inch? I'm going to visit the Apple store tomorrow to see what they can do but I'd prefer if I didn't have to send my laptop away and just find a fix myself if there is one. If not, I thought it'd be good to post my experience here in case anyone else comes across this.

MacBook Pro 16", macOS 10.15

Posted on Dec 14, 2019 2:09 AM

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Posted on Jan 18, 2020 6:30 AM

I had exactly the same problem (down to every detail) and I think I just found a solution.


I'm also using a CalDigit dock and USB bluetooth stick and I'm on my second MBP 16. The first was replaced under AppleCare after the bluetooth module became apparently dead.


The built-in bluetooth came back to life by running system diagnostics (hold down D during boot). After the subsequent restart, without the USB bluetooth adapter attached, I noticed that bluetooth was seeing some devices in the area but still not connecting to anything. I deleted and re-paired my Magic Mouse 2 and Magic Keyboard 2 - now all is working again.

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Jun 25, 2020 9:01 AM in response to christospappas

I also have the exact same problem (connected CSR BT 4.0 dongle through a dock, bluetooth stopped working). I tried Antihawks method with two different dongles, but was not successful.


  1. I tried a cheap dongle (https://vod.ebay.de/vod/FetchOrderDetails?itemid=191930036075&transid=1745988835009&ul_noapp=true), could not see any bluetooth devices at all, but repeated the procedure over and over again. After one of several restarts my Macbook Pro could suddenly see my iPhone without the external dongle connected and even connect to it, but after closing the connection I could not reproduce this success.
  2. Ordered another dongle (Startech Bluetooth Adapter USBBT1EDR2 USB) and tried it. This time I could easily find my devices (iPad, iPhone), but I never got to the point where the internal module would find any devices after I unplugged the dongle. I did SMC resets, reset the bluetooth module, NVRAM reset, deleted the .plist, booted into safe mode, but nothing worked.


I am really desperate right now as I invested a lot of time (and money) in solving a problem that should be solved by the manufacturer of a 6000 EUR professional notebook that is still under warranty. I have to use the device on a daily basis to do my job and cannot give it away even for 3-4 days and I am really annoyed by the fact that every apple employee I talked to could not offer any solution for this problem.


Maybe anybody here has a hint what I could try to make it work? Was it important for you guys to connect to Android devices or could you also make this solution work by connecting to Apple devices?


Any help is highly appreciated.


Thank you!

Jun 25, 2020 9:35 AM in response to fsnck

I know this doesn’t solve your problem but just know you’re not alone in this.

It’s absolutely baffling to me that a company this size cares so little about a problem this serious. If Apple really cared about your 6k EUR you wouldn’t see this problem marked as “resolved”. Guess what, they won’t look further into this as “it is not an issue anymore” just because some people managed to find a workaround that works 50/50 of the time.


I really hope this thread is marked as unresolved again because spending time and money in an external dongle to fix an internal issue is not a solution.

Jun 26, 2020 2:51 AM in response to jamiefromkirkcaldy

jamiefromkirkcaldy wrote:

For number 2, can you post a couple of screenshots from the System Information when the No 2 dongle is plugged in?
If you can also post a screenshot from the USB section when you click on the USB Dongle.

That will give us a little more information to see the exact chipset and version.


Hi Jamie,


glad you asked! Here is a picture showing chipset etc. of the second module (Startech Bluetooth Adapter USBBT1EDR2 USB):



Maybe one of you has found a working module in Germany? Or is anybody willing to send me their proven to work module to Germany? Of course I would pay the shipping, buy a beer and send it back after fixing my Mac.


Cheers!

Jun 30, 2020 2:56 PM in response to jeremías49

Hi,

"HCI Selector in Bluetooth Explorer.app still shows None" this is normal according to my findings. I first diagnosed by friends Mac and he asked me to take a look at this. I had never plugged in CSR 4.0 dongle at this point on my own Mac and I checked it and it read "None" on the selector. Later on I broke my own Mac's bluetooth with my friend's CSR 4.0 dongle when he lend it to me to check on exact fix procedure.

Jun 30, 2020 3:03 PM in response to jeremías49

And to the "weird quirks" I had these from the unboxing of my machine, bluetooth seemed unstable at time to time especially on bluetooth headphones. Link crashes or no audio or connection resets. Normally these autorecover after 5 seconds. I accepted this as a bug feature as we are talking about first revision of 16" MacBook Pro in my case. Apple is fixing these kinds of bugs regulary and overall experience has been good.


At the moment I have bug where my machine is crashing with complete power failure after 5-10 seconds when it is running low on battery <5%, system is on full load and I plug in charger that comes with the Mac.

These kind of things happen...

Aug 13, 2020 2:58 PM in response to ndrock

Also tried everything here over hours of resets/reboots/plug-unplug cycles. Bought a no-brand mushroom-headed Bluetooth 2.0 USB dongle that resembled those from which others reported success - no luck. (Anyone who has an external dongle that seemed to wake the onboard - you should rent it out!)


Had hopes new MacOS Catalina 10.15.6 update, available today (August 13), might include a software fix – given some comments upthread that recent hardware replacements had been deferred. After installation, no luck - internal Bluetooth still dead.

Aug 21, 2020 6:43 PM in response to BZZH

Boris - that's very helpful info, thanks! Alas, I'm in the US & haven't yet found an alternate source for a BCM2045A Bluetooth 2.0 dongle.


Somewhat surprising that Apple can't have their Bluetooth/MacBook engineers figure a software fix, given all the work by outsiders here. (If inserting a USB peripheral can trigger a set of steps that persistently re-enables onboard Bluetooth, software should easily be able to simulate the same steps.) But I suppose we have to cut this scrappy, resource-constrained garage startup some slack, while it waits for some kindly volunteer to donate the knowhow for a fix.

Aug 25, 2020 9:25 AM in response to kelvin_hk_uk

Hi there !


Same issue here with my 4-months 16-inch MBP.


BUT i never plug any dongle like yours.

Issue appeared when i plugged my new mavic air 2 drone to my laptop. Bluetooth doesn’t connect anymore with my keyboard/trackpad/airpods pro...


do apple are working on that trouble ?


i did all above, pram/nvram/new install/terminal/reset bluetooth plist....

no bluetooth anymore !


keep in touch !

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