16-inch MacBook Pro Bluetooth issue

I bought the new 16-inch MacBook Pro when it first came out and was happily using it until a week later my bluetooth stopped discovering devices, in particular my Magic Mouse and iPhone. I tried everything from resetting nvram, smc, resetting the bluetooth module, removing bluetooth.plist, downloaded bluetooth explorer and reset a bunch of settings etc and even went to the extent of completely formatting the computer and installing osx from scratch to no avail. Hardware diagnostics showed no hardware issues as well. The bluetooth device was showing up fine in System Report but it just wasn't discovering anything. I have a work laptop (2017 MacBook Pro) which I use side by side and it was working fine.


Long story short, I was able to replace the device at the Apple store I bought it at since it was within the 14 day return policy window. So I put it down to just being unlucky.


It's been a few weeks since then and I now have the same issue with the replacement laptop. This time though I think I know what triggered it.


I have a CalDigit dock that I use for my work laptop and occasionally have a usb bluetooth device attached to it for some work I do in virtual machines. The issue occurred when I connected my new MacBook to the dock along with the bluetooth dongle. The usb bluetooth dongle worked fine however when I disconnected the thunderbolt dock from the MacBook I noticed the bluetooth icon in the top right hand corner changed to an icon with a zigzag across it, obviously due to bluetooth device being disconnected.


Since disconnecting the external bluetooth device I'm having the same issue as I had previously, my MacBook Bluetooth device won't find any devices and is not recognized by other bluetooth devices like my iPhone/other MacBooks. I've gone through the whole process as before, and have resorted to a clean install of osx to no avail. I've even compared bluetoothd console logs between the working MacBook I have and the now broken one, the only difference is the working MacBook is able to detect devices when they are advertised, whereas the MacBook Pro 16-inch does not.


Digging into this, it seems as though OSX by default switches to any attached USB bluetooth device when it's plugged in and then when disconnected, it reverts back to the onboard device. This works fine on my old MacBook as I've been using the USB dongle for a while now without any issues. I initially thought that there may be a software issue with the internal bluetooth device not switching back properly but I would have thought a clean install would have fixed it so there must be some sort of hardware issue specifically with the new MacBook Pro 16-inch.


I'm pretty frustrated now as I've now gone through two 16-inch MacBook Pro's with bricked bluetooth devices that I'm fairly certain was caused by connecting an external bluetooth dongle via thunderbolt. I'm pretty sure onboard devices shouldn't die just because a third party device was connected/disconnected.


Has anyone come across this yet with the new MacBook Pro 16-inch? I'm going to visit the Apple store tomorrow to see what they can do but I'd prefer if I didn't have to send my laptop away and just find a fix myself if there is one. If not, I thought it'd be good to post my experience here in case anyone else comes across this.

MacBook Pro 16", macOS 10.15

Posted on Dec 14, 2019 2:09 AM

Reply
Question marked as Top-ranking reply

Posted on Jan 18, 2020 6:30 AM

I had exactly the same problem (down to every detail) and I think I just found a solution.


I'm also using a CalDigit dock and USB bluetooth stick and I'm on my second MBP 16. The first was replaced under AppleCare after the bluetooth module became apparently dead.


The built-in bluetooth came back to life by running system diagnostics (hold down D during boot). After the subsequent restart, without the USB bluetooth adapter attached, I noticed that bluetooth was seeing some devices in the area but still not connecting to anything. I deleted and re-paired my Magic Mouse 2 and Magic Keyboard 2 - now all is working again.

Similar questions

341 replies

Aug 11, 2020 2:49 AM in response to derick212

Nope, the internal module never works since I plugged the dongle into it. I went extreme to installing Big Sur Beta and wiping the internal storage then reinstalling Catalina, no luck at all. I went to a local Apple Store for help today but was turned down since Apple now only accepts repair request by making appointment online due to the pandemic. Guess I'll just have to wait for my appointment tomorrow.

Aug 12, 2020 7:19 PM in response to derick212

A bit of update here: Went to a local Apple store here, probably took an hour and half for the Genius to diagnose the issue, they told me that this is the first time they see a problem like this. Ran bunch of checks still couldn't figure the problem. They offer me a motherboard a replacement and report to Apple regardless of my choice. I decided to hold off and immediately ordered the BT 2.0 dongle from Amazon US that you guys mentioned above and see if it can fix the issue. Can anyone confirm the 'solution' still work in Catalina 10.15.6? I see Apple released another supplemental Update again today but this issue STILL isn't addressed in the update log.


I'm afraid that Apple might have ignored this issue since this thread is marked as 'solved'. Apple you need to fix this asap!

Aug 19, 2020 11:11 PM in response to Gordon Mohr

Hi Gordon


The chipset can be identified in the "SystemInformation Tab" / USB Details. See attached screenshot.

In the example, you can see the BCM2045A chipset. The spec of this chipset clearly states, that it is BT2.1.


Some more details about chipsets:


If switching behaviour is set to always, then:

  • With a CSR8510 A10 chipset, I can repeatedly "crash" the internal bluetooth.
  • Then, with a BCM2045A chipset, I can always fix it.



Boris

Aug 23, 2020 5:32 PM in response to Gordon Mohr

I firstly thought it wasn't working as well and made another reservation at Genius Bar. But a day later, after a restart I noticed the SideCar icon was back and my Airpods Pro appeared in the sound preference menu. Apple really should have fixed this long ago. Having its customers going through hoops for plugging in a BT dongle to a >$23K laptop is simply horrendous.

Sep 2, 2020 7:58 PM in response to christospappas

So, I've figured out, that this may potentially be caused by internal components being connected by Bluetooth. I've had a hunch for a while, but I confirmed it while working in Windows using Boot Camp. The Bluetooth indicator showed the internal microphone connected by bluetooth. The keyboard and trackpad may be as well. I've wondered about this for a while, as again, I have had issues and clues like you.

Oct 23, 2020 1:04 PM in response to AntiHawk

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!


After hours of trying every reset on earth I found this thread and bought what I could get from amazon that looked like BT2.0.

I had to do several SMC resets and when I thought it would never work again it connected. This made my day :)


If you are from Germany and need a working BT dongle - this is the one that worked: https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00GA3LBYK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

(CSL USB Bluetooth 2.0 Dongle - 2,99Euro)

If it's not available on Amazon try eBay ;)

Nov 1, 2020 10:16 PM in response to poxin

Thank you poxin. I followed in your footsteps and it worked. If this success lasts, I will be very happy. The key is getting the correct adapter, without which the procedures are frustrating and seemingly useless.


Is there a Broadcom pattern?

One BT5.0 with Broadcom on the MacBook Pro 16".

One BT 4.0 dongle with Cambridge Silicon Radio broke my MacBook.

That one and another BT 4.0 dongle with Cambridge Silicon Radio did not work with all my devices.

Two BT 2.0 dongles with Cambridge Silicon Radio did not fix the original problem.

One BT 2.0 dongle with Broadcom fixed the problem.







I wonder if Cambridge Silicon Radio is better at breaking (a dongle broke my Mac), incomplete at functioning (two dongles and ineffective at fixing (two dongles were useless), and Broadcom is better at fixing the Broadcom Mac. That's my experience after owning 5 dongles.

Nov 11, 2020 9:01 AM in response to arnoud257

Oh apologies, I did not notice those two extra pairs of 0s! It follows the same pattern as on my system.


I compared the your values to mine, they differ a little bit:

bluetoothActiveControllerInfo	%96%00%ac%05%00%00%00%00%00%00%f8%ff%c2;%18%df
bluetoothInternalControllerInfo	%96%00%ac%05%00%00%00%00%f8%ff%c2;%18%df


If you feel particularly adventurous, you could try mine. But be warned, I have no idea what these values mean, so do it at your own risk!

Jan 13, 2021 6:12 PM in response to orangebeer

the Hideez adapter killed my internal Bluetooth. I bought this 2.0 adapter for $3 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Wireless-Adapter-USB-2-0-1-0-For-Keyboard-Mouse-For-Bluetooth-V2-0-EDR-Receiver-/143337681457?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292 and I tried the magic steps but it didn’t fix the problem. I took it to Apple and they have sent it away. I will update when I get it back. I’d really like them to fix the problem so I can use the adapter to switch between computers.

This thread has been closed by the system or the community team. You may vote for any posts you find helpful, or search the Community for additional answers.

16-inch MacBook Pro Bluetooth issue

Welcome to Apple Support Community
A forum where Apple customers help each other with their products. Get started with your Apple Account.