Macbook Pro 16 inch speaker periodic pops

Hi. Anyone using Cycling '74 Max 8 on the new Macbook Pro 16-inch? I'm getting strange audio from Max 8. Simple sound generators produce audio which is kind of glitchy... it is not stable.

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Posted on Mar 8, 2020 7:04 AM

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Mar 23, 2020 12:35 PM in response to Spinnn

I now know how to reproduce this issue.


I thought the noise/pulsating pops were gone from my computer and tested sometimes: opened Logic, created a simple project with one software instrument and played it. No issues. Then I decided to check the buffer size (Preferences>Audio). It was set to 128. I changed it to 256 and clicked apply changes. When I played the software instrument the sound problems were back again! So this is probably a buffer issue on the sound card that drives the speakers.

Mar 8, 2020 7:19 AM in response to Spinnn

Spinnn wrote:

Hi. Anyone using Cycling '74 Max 8 on the new Macbook Pro 16-inch? I'm getting strange audio from Max 8. Simple sound generators produce audio which is kind of glitchy... it is not stable.



Verify your software is up to date:

Combo update macOS 10.15.3 https://support.apple.com/kb/DL2030



To trouble shoot further you can:


Try a SafeBoot https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201262

Takes noticeable longer to get to the login screen, does a 5-15 minute disk repair before it fully boots up, and certain system caches get cleared and rebuilt, including dynamic loader cache, etc. Login and test.


This will tell you if third party interference; extensions etc are not loaded in safe boot mode.


Apr 14, 2020 6:10 AM in response to Spinnn

Today I was testing again in Logic Pro, with a new project with just one software instrument (electric piano). Changing the buffer size did not reproduce the issue. But changing the sampling frequency did make the pulsating sounds come back: the steps I used were to go from 44.1 KHz to 96, and then back to 44.1. The pulsating sounds reappeared... Something is not working properly regarding the sampling rate and buffer...

Apr 4, 2020 12:45 PM in response to Spinnn

For what it's worth, I've been working on a reproduction starting from a fresh install of the OS. A fresh install of macOS does not reproduce the issue. You need to install and use GarabgeBand to reproduce. But it only takes a few minutes of futzing around in GarabgeBand (it doesn't seem to matter too much what you do... could be working with WAV files, or MIDI), to reproduce the issue.


I agree that I think it's a buffer issue. Specifically I think the buffer is emptying periodically, which causes the speakers to run out of audio to play. When they run out they go silent. That silence however, is very brief (probably measured in single digit milliseconds), and when the sound comes back, it sounds like a pop noice. But that's just speculation.


Going forward I'm only going to update https://discussions.apple.com/thread/251130317 with whatever findings I may have.

Mar 14, 2020 6:07 PM in response to Spinnn

Check out this thread. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/251163041, I think his user has the exact same issue you have (and I have). Also that thread has a link to a recording of the issue, which matches my issue (and maybe yours too).


https://discussions.apple.com/thread/251163041


I don't have any solutions, but it would be interesting to know if we're all experiencing the same issue. Here's another thread that I think is on the same issue


https://discussions.apple.com/thread/251130317

Mar 8, 2020 7:38 AM in response to jskwl

Yes, I’m on OS 10.15.3. I still have popping issues when watching youtube or netflix. When the sound is cut abruptly after I jump to another time location on a video, the sound does not fade out... I think there’s still some issues.


but in Max 8 I really get unstable audio. It’s not exactly popping, nor is it distortion. Sounds like an interference pattern...

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