Homepod disconnects or stops playing music from itunes randomly

Homepod was just updated to 13.4. I did NOT notice this issue previously but others are reporting the exact same issue on other forums.


The first thread details the issue perfectly.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/homepod-stops-playing-music-from-itunes-windows.2215843/

https://www.reddit.com/r/HomePod/comments/eq4lg3/itunes_and_homepod_constantly_disconnect/


When using the homepod as a speaker from iTunes it will randomly stop playing music and display a dash like this "-" next to it. If I deselect it and click it again it will start playing sound again. If I stop the track and play again, it will start playing again.


Playing from windows 10 PC, fully updated.

iTunes 12.10.4.2

Homepod 13.4


The issue seems to happen less when I use the homepod as the only device checked to play music to. If i check other devices, like the apple TV and computer itself to play as well the issue happens more often. My WiFi is solid with no deadspots, I've done a speed test and poor mans site survey with my iPhone to test speeds with no issues. Also to rule out WiFi as the issue i can play from my iPhone to the homepod and apple TV without the problem.


I suspect its an iTunes issue or possibly the homepod struggling to stay in sync with iTunes. Please read the other threads before suggesting solutions already purposed as I've tried them all.


This clearly seems like a bug but I don't know where to submit bug reports for the homepod.


Thank you in advance.


Posted on Mar 25, 2020 7:34 PM

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Posted on Aug 29, 2020 9:56 PM

So no dice on turning off the homepod features, however I have found a pattern in the packet capture correlated with the failure. I no longer think this is an issue with the homepod, but a problem solely with iTunes.


Every 30 seconds, iTunes sends a TCP message to homepod port 7000 with an OPTIONS message that provides cseq number, user agent, instance ID, and a remote ID. Between these messages, the homepod will send a TCP Keep-Alive to my PC from port 7000 every 6 seconds. After 4 of these, iTunes sends the options message.



When the issue occurs, that 30 second interval TCP options message does not get sent. That's why the other poster was encountering the issue at the 28 second mark each time. That is the refresh interval for this options message.


We can see in the packet capture, the TCP fin message comes as soon as the 30 second interval passes without the options message being sent from iTunes:


This leads me to believe that it might be possible to spoof this options message to the homepod using a 3rd party tool, therefore keeping the stream alive even when itunes fails to send the options message itself. That will be my next task.

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May 13, 2020 8:08 PM in response to Inmate_0801

I think I found the issue. I have received my new HomePod

from Best Buy today. It came with 11.2.5 (I tested without updating to 13.4).

So far, I have been able to play music for over 45 minutes without it

disconnecting and showing the infamous "-". In addition, I downgraded

my Apple TV4 to 10.2.2. I have been able to Airplay music with no disconnects

on HomePod and Apple TV. My conclusion is there is an issue with the IOS

software and not iTunes. Hopefully, the next update resolves the issue. If

enough of us complain we have a better chance of them fixing the issue. Apple

HELP!

Jul 6, 2020 2:30 PM in response to Bryan Kinkel

@Bryan Kinkel I got the replacement Home Pod. It's on version 11.2.5 straight from Apple. It does not miss a beat while streaming from Windows iTunes. Unfortunately, this version loses it's connection to the home network after an idle period. I have to unplug and plug it back in to get recognized. I had this same issue prior so I know it's a 11.2.5 thing.


I should have mentioned my PC is hardwired to the network (I even tried wireless from the PC with no luck).


I have not updated to 13.4.6 because I'm also convinced it's an iOS issue with the audio cut outs.


I have a variety of Airplay speakers/receivers throughout the house (Sonos, Denon, Bose and Apple). It's only the HomePod on the struggle bus. Bose had a "lag" issue at one point that was corrected very quickly via an update.


So again, I'm with you on the culprit being iOS. The speaker itself does sound "goodish" when it plays. There's just no reliability. Hopefully it's corrected in the next release.

Jul 25, 2020 5:59 AM in response to AW_Gator

I don't know why Apple even bothers with Windows versions of their software but, given that they did somehow manage to get iTunes in all its bloated glory (sort of) working on Windows, they should give this matter some attention as AirPlay capability is mainstream, not some forgotten feature being put out to pasture.


Could you elaborate on your EMF comment? Also, what is POE? I can understand the objections regarding the lack of connectivity (Bluetooth and Line input) but Apple makes no secret about this and there is logic to the design. Besides there's lots of Bluetooth speakers with standard inputs out there if that's what you need. Not sure what you mean about the lack of a data port. What would that be for? Also, the power cord is removable, apparently with some effort.


I hope you get this sorted out eventually.

Aug 13, 2020 1:11 PM in response to svenfrommünchen

Well this is interesting. I always assumed it was iTunes being poorly made for windows but if its happening with a Mac as well that's clearly an overall iTunes issue and not just windows related.


Either way, I think everyone on this thread has offered some amazing feedback. Thank you all for the contributions. I started this because iTunes was driving me crazy with the constant disconnects and I really wanted to enjoy my homepod with music on my windows computer. I don't have Apple music and in my head this drove me crazy because I felt like it was Apple's way of driving me to get an Apple Music subscription.


Clearly I'm not the only one with the problem and its also clear this is a software bug with iTunes and not some wireless router issue. Everyone please keep reporting the issue to Apple with the feedback option on the web link below. I think the only way to get attention on this and get it fixed is to have many people report the same problem.


https://www.apple.com/feedback/homepod.html


Aug 31, 2020 6:15 PM in response to Bumbeen

I got a small proof of concept Windows app written. It sends 1% volume change to iTunes every 20 seconds. Then it waits 1.5 seconds before setting the volume back to the original value. The 1.5 seconds between changes is there to give iTunes time to notify AirPlay outputs and the iOS iTunes Remote app that there was an actual volume change. It may not be needed. But superstition.


And with a 1% change, you can't even tell anything happened with the volume.


I listen to radio stations via iTunes on my PC. I then push the audio via AirPlay all over the house throughout the day. And both the HomePod and AppleTV audio will cut out periodically. It sucks.


So I will let iTunes try to pump music to the HomePod all night with this little app running. If the HomePod is still cranking out music in the morning I will be thrilled.


But yeah, Apple should be fixing this in the low level networking stack.



Nov 12, 2020 7:54 AM in response to Wappaloochie

Hey folks - Well it seems like all the latest 14.2 platform releases does not fix the Windows iTunes to HomePod/AppleTV dropout problems. For me, this is just the latest in series of "it should just work" issues and irritants with Apple products.


(I can't add my spouse to my Apple Home. So she can't control lights, etc from her phone. And changing my AppleID password seems to have freaked out the HomePod to the point where I have to reset it, etc. So that is the Saturday project. This stuff is basic.)


Several people have asked for the link to the Volume Adjuster program that has been discussed in this thread. I really appreciate the positive feedback on the software. It seems to work very well and I've received some very happy, sometimes joyous, emails.


So I'm posting the link here - hopefully it does not get removed or pulled by the mods.


This is for Windows only. It is a small program that periodically adjusts iTunes volume by 1%. This seems to keep the signal between iTunes and HomePod/ATV hardware alive.


http://www.loseyourmind.com/volume-adjuster-for-itunes.aspx



Peace. -- Bryan



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Nov 17, 2020 7:14 AM in response to Kwoodhouse

Hey Folks - I updated the web page with some testing information. I added a chart with the various combinations of iTunes and tvOS that I have tested with. Bottom line, the iTunes to HomePod/ATV timeout issue still happens with the recent tvOS 14.2 release. I still have more testing to do with the latest version of iTunes. But I doubt 12.10.10 will magically fix it.


http://www.loseyourmind.com/volume-adjuster-for-itunes.aspx


Thanks for the support. -- Bryan

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