Iphone hacked, how?

I have posted here multiple times before. Again I am still sure I am experiencing this. Today someone knew about messages I sent to someone which had the intent of making them react. Also my phone was calling another person while it was locked in my pocket. I do not think there is anyway it could have done that without me unlocking the phone correct? It definitely was locked in my pocket. I am at a loss on how to combat this a I have restored my phone and changed passwords. Pretty crazy stuff. Do you think that it would be possible to monitor a device at the phone service level without me knowing? I contacted my service provider and they said nothing like that was activated. Could the account holder be able to do this sort of monitoring without my consent and still have the service provider keep it secret? It is extremely hard for me to chalk all this stuff up to coincidence when I have tested my theory over and over again.


I looked up some spy software marketed for iphone and all seem to either need the phone to be jailbroken OR iCloud access. I have two factor authentication set up and my icloud is not even signed in/back up is not activated. I am expecting the same responses that typically come with this post. I know something is going on though. I cannot just ignore my experiences as crazy as it may be.

iPhone 6, iOS 12

Posted on Mar 30, 2020 9:05 PM

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Apr 1, 2020 5:08 AM in response to ordodortor

I am very well aware that actual hacking is not like how it is portrayed in the media.

My last submission.


You can believe what you wish, but I suggest that if the ability to hack a phone and do what you feel is happening, that would be in the news far and wide. Apple has perhaps the largest red target on its back and there are entire industries in place looking for them to fail at just this type of thing.

Apr 5, 2020 5:42 PM in response to ordodortor

No one takes you seriously because it isn’t happening. There is some other explanation that you haven’t found yet. And until you accept that it isn’t happening through a hacked phone you will never solve it. In that case the only possible solution is to get rid of your iPhone and get a basic flip phone. And yes, I am serious about that.

Apr 7, 2020 5:32 PM in response to ordodortor

Did you read far enough to learn that Apple patched it immediately? Or would that ruin your fantasy? Security is not building a wall and living behind it forever. Security is an a never-ending arms race. When your wall is breached you patch it, usually before anyone gets in. The reason that iPhones can’t be hacked is not because they have an impenetrable wall, it is because when issues are discovered they are fixed right away. And it’s why Apple (and most other manufacturers) pay huge bounties for reported vulnerabilities. As explained in the article that you apparently didn’t read.

Apr 7, 2020 7:38 PM in response to ordodortor

Since you’ve closed you’re mind to anything but the conclusion you arrived at when first posting here, what is the point of anyone even continuing this thread?


The fact is things like the zero day exploits you posted your link to are rare, with no evidence of large scale active use in the wild, and are quickly identified by numerous watchdog groups, and patches to operating systems rapidly rolled out. The patches are also typically retroactive, so even if exploited, someone patching their operating system will defeat the exploit.


By ignoring the very more likely potential that your experiencing something other than iOS hacking, you simply sentence yourself to continuing to live with whatever actual issue you are experiencing.


So, good luck with it.

Apr 7, 2020 7:49 PM in response to ordodortor

Apple likely does not say anything about it because it has benefited greatly from convincing many, such as yourself, that this sort of hacking was impossible.

I may regret speaking out again, but you have now twisted your argument beyond belief.


Your original post was about someone knowing the content of your messages.


You said : Today someone knew about messages I sent to someone which had the intent of making them react. Also my phone was calling another person while it was locked in my pocket.


Nobody would validate your paranoia and concerns.


To explain to us that this sort of hacking was possible and to continue your screed against Apple, you quoted an article published by Forbes, a known anti-Apple party, that speaks about a camera exploit. An exploit that requires the exploitee to visit a specific website coded specifically for this exploit. An exploit that was given to Apple and resolved before it could do any harm.


An exploit that has zero to do with your assertion your phone was hacked. Only that phones can be hacked.


You sound like an intelligent person. How is it you don't realize that nobody here can do anything abut your scenario? There will be no solution offered here by anybody. Apple will not admit anything to anybody here. You can read any one of the 10s of thousands of posts here and you will not see Apple do what you want them to do. This is how Apple has decided to run their business. If you don't agree with this approach, choose another phone product for your use.


The specific behaviours you feel are happening on your phone are not logical and can't/won't be explained by anybody here.


Period.


They can't be related to the Forbes article you sent us to.


Period.


I don't really want an answer to this rhetorical question, but .. what do you hope to gain from this? You are free, as are we, to believe what you believe. We stopped replying to you and you taunted us in to reacting. Won't happen again I'm sure.



Apr 10, 2020 8:39 PM in response to LACAllen

It actually is that most of you have closed your mind to the possibility of a way that has never been done before. Let me summarize what I have posted here and why:


I know that I am being monitored due to many instances where I tested my theory via baiting to get a reaction. With consistent results I began to believe that something was in fact happening. Now there is not a doubt in my mind for there has been for sure reactions. I am once again come to seek help because this seems like a pretty big deal, as well as a severe violation of my privacy. If it can happen to me it can also happen to other people which means that it is in all of our interest to figure out how this is occurring.


People do not believe me and cling to the now untrue notion that apple is un-hackable outside of jail break. Discredit my experiences and gas light me.


I remain firm in knowing that what is happening to me is true and reference recent events where security researchers have found sever flaws that allow iPhones to be remotely accessed by simply visiting a website. One of which was active in the wild for two years. The most recent one involving the microphone and camera it was not stated how long this was able to happen, at least from the sources I read.


People continue to say that what I am experiencing is not happening


I am not expecting any response from apple. I actually think they create solid phones and from my current understand are still more secure than androids or other smart phones. All I am trying here is to try to get in contact with someone who can aid me or recommend some sort of forensic program.


Please, there has to be something I can do to look into this.

Apr 16, 2020 8:46 PM in response to Michael Black

I found a few places and it is costly. I was hoping to find a basic network monitoring tool such as Winshark that is specific for iphones. I understand that in the effort to keep things secure such a thing could be potentially dangerous to have widely available.


I agree that this would be a costly exploit. It does not make sense to me either. I am a normal person and usually these things are reserved for very high profile targets. Individuals who are worth the millions that could be gained from turning an exploit like this in. The person doing this definitely does not have the expertise in making this nor the money nor the contacts to buy this. I have only speculated as to how this may have been obtained. No way at all to verify this.

My evidence is mostly empirical and I have not really gone into details here intentionally. To save time and not really being comfortable with it. Maybe it was taken out of a lab somehow and that is why it cannot be turned in? All out there sort of things that I have no way to currently verify.

It is a crime and I of course have considered the police. The thing is exactly what you are saying, it would cost resources and a local police force may be unequipped and or inexperienced in handling this sort of case. Considering the nature of the exploit it would be a very significant one. It truly is hard for me to believe that this is happening as well because it is hard to rationalize that all the crazy stuff that would have to happen to make this a reality. I think if i did go into detail it would sound rational and I could articulate it well. I also believe I could demonstrate I am not delusional. For example one of the things that has happened a couple months ago was that I confronted the person and they directly referenced a when I had a couple days prior tried to rationalize how insane this all seemed. They also directly referenced other things I said. This sort of thing has happened consistently time and time again. I do not believe I could hallucinate all of this and I would be willing to talk via web cam to someone who might know how to help in order to prove that I am not a crazy paranoid drug addict.

Apr 17, 2020 7:54 AM in response to Michael Black

Michael Black wrote:

And if what you claim is happening is actually happening, I guarantee that law enforcement would like to know about it. But not reporting a crime because you think it would be too involved for the police to handle is is not a defensible excuse for not reporting a criminal act when you have evidence of one.


Not everyone receives the same reception from and the same treatment by law enforcement. Unfortunately.

Apr 18, 2020 10:22 AM in response to ordodortor

ordodortor wrote:

I do not believe I could hallucinate all of this and I would be willing to talk via web cam to someone who might know how to help in order to prove that I am not a crazy paranoid drug addict.

I hate to tell you this, but you are being paranoid. You've been told what's wrong. It's a simple hardware fault. You can argue otherwise all you like, but believe me, the last thing doing so is going to accomplish is to prove that you are not paranoid...

Apr 29, 2020 4:57 PM in response to KiltedTim

I should and will look into contacting law enforcement. I guess it is still the doubt in myself as much as I trust my experiences. Something that happened this week which was really really weird was that my Messenger app made changes that I did not do nor do I have any idea how it could have been down by itself. Maybe some of you are familiar with messenger app and know that you can change stuff like peoples nicknames as well as color of the theme in the chat. So while I was working one day it changed someones nickname while the phone was locked in my pocket. Today it changed the theme of a chat while I was getting ready for work. Both times I was not using my phone and the screen was locked. For that to have happened that means in my pocket my 6 digit code would have been needed to be pushed in, the messenger app selected , the correct chat selected, name/group of people in the chat, the correct option tab, and then the nickname section, then typing out the random letters to change it to, then hitting save, and then exiting out of the app. Similar thing for changing the color theme this morning. Now to me that sounds incredibly unlikely to happen by random chance in my pocket, multiple times in a few days. I think they are getting more set on messing with me more openly as they feel like I will not be able to get actual proof. It is stuff like this, but here I could even provide screenshots of when these things were changed not that I could use that to find out who was accessing my phone. The weirder thing is after the one with the name I completely factory reset my phone, as I have in the past. Recently I used program to restore only select portions back to my phone such as only contacts and whatsapp. After the name changed I completely restored it to original settings with no back up, did not connect it to any wifi, and only used the icloud back up of my whatsapp messages/media but no actually connect to my Icloud account. How can this happen? Is my computer infected as well and putting something on it when I restore? It all seems so crazy to me but I am telling you that this is happening to me, this has been on of the clearest examples and I am at a loss of what to do.

Apr 30, 2020 7:23 AM in response to ordodortor

Listen, I am just as baffled about this. I restored my phone this week and it happens again. I also have two factor authentication and do not save the browser, not that they would even be able to get to my computer or log into it as I changed that password, a different one, months ago. Everything makes it seem like it is not possible. It happened to me, twice in less than a week, along with the tons and tons of other things. I really do not understand. How could this happen? Seriously, how? Maaaaybe one freak change could be explained, alright, but twice in less than a week?

Apr 30, 2020 7:33 AM in response to ordodortor

I think they may be pushing me to react in an extreme way. Why else would they sort of reveal that they are doing this. This would be very top level software right? Expensive rare stuff which also does not make sense. I cannot answer that to you people, all I can do is speak my truth and my experience.


I have also turned on notifications for unauthorized logins. Can any of you explain how this is possible

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