New GMT face

Is it just me, or is something not quite right in the new GMT face? My understanding of a GMT watch is that the red hand is somewhat like an hour hand, however it does a 360 degree sweep in 24 hours instead of 12 hours. E.g. pointing straight up should be 00:00 GMT, whilst at 12:00 GMT the hand should be pointing straight down.


Playing around with the watch face, it appears to me like the red hand is instead pointing to the current time in London which is British Summer Time (GMT + 1).


It's 13:00 in London now, which means it's 12:00 GMT. The red hand is not pointing straight down, it's actually pointing at the 13:00 indicator.


Is this a bug, or is my understanding of the watch face misplaced?

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Posted on Sep 16, 2020 5:04 AM

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Posted on Sep 24, 2020 2:05 AM

I think the way Apple's GMT watch face works is confusing (and different to most GMT watches). Many of the responses on this thread are not quite right and people are unnecessarily confused by the implementation.


Below I will refer to the alternate time as GMT (it could be any alternate time choosable).


The way most GMT watches works (and how I think the Apple GMT Face should work) is like this:

  • Separate bezel numbered up to 24
  • The GMT bezel doesn't have to move (and usually doesn't)
  • The GMT hand indicates the 24 hour time
  • If it is12 noon GMT the GMT hand would point straight down (to regular the regular 6 is)


Currently the Apple GMT Watch Face GMT bezel rotates (apparently to indicate offset from your current time zone) and the GMT hand only goes between 1 and 12 with the colour of the GMT bezel used as a guide as to whether it would be night or day (am/pm).


Apple could rectify the issues by changing to the regular method I have described or at least providing the option to have a fixed or offset GMT bezel in the face options.


An important user group of watch faces like this are pilots who use UTC for precise, reliable and consistent time sharing. For pilot's the world over the time is the same (UTC time) and it is stated in 24hr format. Apple, please label the GMT bezel up to 24 or have the number in the circle (at the end of the GMT hand) going from 00 up to 23. eg. 15 minutes after midnight UTC is zero zero one five (WATCH should show 00) and 1045pmUTC is 2245 (should show 22). Hopefully you get the idea.


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Sep 22, 2020 3:51 PM in response to ScottRH

Thanks. Obviously the person who designed the “GMT” watch face has never owned a GMT watch or doesn’t understand aviation, marine, space and military run on GMT (or UTC or “Zulu” time)....


I still use my Rolex when I’m flying. (as I notice most commercial pilots still do) I don’t want the battery to die when I’m flying a long international trip.


Apple should change the face name to something else, because it’s NOT a “GMT” (as watch standards go) face. Oh well. It works good when I ride my bike for stats!


Thanks fir clarifying!


Sep 24, 2020 5:03 AM in response to horton_river

No disrespect, but: Meh. Speaking for myself, I don’t believe Apple’s goal here was to turn a 21st century wrist computer into a lifelike simulation of a 60-plus-year-old Swiss analog GMT watch design. This is a new digital platform with a new kind of interface that allow — and require — new paradigms for reading and interaction.


My watches haven’t ever been expensive, but I’ve been wearing them regularly for about 40 years now. (How do you do, fellow kids?) The Apple Watch doesn’t work like any of them; as a result, it’s been more useful in every way.


That said, I’ll bet Apple wants feedback from users with specific use cases for wristwatches — but they’re less likely to find it here than in the place they provide for users like us to reach their developers directly. I’d be sure to send this to them at https://apple.com/feedback (if you haven’t already).

Sep 16, 2020 5:38 PM in response to Tednol

If you tap on the GMT watch face, you can use the crown to set the time zone shown on the outer bezel. (Mine wasn’t set to UTC by default — I had to scroll through and select it.)


However.


It’s not like I’ve seen a ton of analog GMT watches, but the ones I’ve seen had outer bezels labeled in 24-hour time. On the Apple Watch, tho’, that bezel is labeled in 12-hour time — and for me, that makes it significantly less useful. (I need to see local time in 12-hour format and UTC in 23-hour format.) If there’s something I’m missing, I hope someone will let me know.

Sep 17, 2020 1:05 PM in response to Tednol

Default watch face “GMT” is set for 12 hr clock. To change outer dial to read as Military 24 hr clock. Just go to Apple Watch on your iPhone and go to Clock and there change to 24 hr clock and then outer dial will remain as a 12 hr clock but the outer dial will now show as a 24 hr Military clock view. Reverse back To 12 hr for all other face clock views

Sep 17, 2020 2:15 PM in response to akcshooter

Of course this works, but it’s only useful advice if you want to show 24-hour time on every one of your digital faces (and see your 7 p.m. appointments listed as 19:00, for example, in Calendar complications). If you swipe back and forth between watch faces frequently, it’s obviously too cumbersome to pull out your phone and adjust the Watch app’s Clock settings when you need to use a different face.


(I’d looked forward to the GMT face, assuming it would work like … well, almost any watch you’d find by googling “GMT bezel” — but having use 24-hour time in all contexts on all my faces is a deal-breaker for me, personally.)

Sep 22, 2020 3:16 PM in response to Tednol

On my Rolex GMT Master II, the GMT hand is pointed to GMT while the hour and minute hands are my local time. I use GMT for my flying job. I don’t get how to point the red “GMT” hand to “GMT”. (For people who don’t use it it probably doesn’t matter, for those of us who use it for a living, it just makes 1 less calculation I have to do) :)


whats the point of having the GMT hand if I can’t point it to GMT?

Sep 22, 2020 3:31 PM in response to ScottRH

My GMT master’s GMT hand is always pointed at GMT - the 24 hour hand is supposed to be on 22:26 note the Rolex. The Apple Watch “24 hour GMT” hand you’ll notice is NOT at 22:26. The local time is 1726 CDT (MSP).


Am I missing something or what? (I also have an Omega watch which shows GMT the same as EVERY other aviator watch I know of ie Breitling, Heuer etc)

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