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iPhone 12 losing service

Received my iPhone 12 Pro on Friday. Activated it on Saturday. Sunday I drove for 10 mns and when I arrive to my destination I saw no reception bars and No Service. And in the middle of the screen in a grey box: Your iPhone is not Activated.


The only way to get the connection back was to toggle Airplane mode to ON then OFF.


The iPhone had the cellular mode to 5G Auto. I switched it to LTE to test. And it was the same.


So I resetted the network settings: same issue and I resetted the iPhone as a new iPhone and reinstalled everything from scratch (not from a saved backup): same issue.


I drove my car and found the exact location where the phone lost the network. If the phone lost the network it means I reach the end of the coverage area from a certain antenna. It looks like something happened with the phone when I reach a zone covered by a new antenna.


I called my operator and they told me that everything is good on their end and I have the right SIM card for a 5G device.


I called the Apple Tech Support and they remotely installed on my phone two profiles:

  • Baseband and Telephony Logging
  • CFNetwork Diagnostics


I was able to replicate the issue after talking to the Apple Tech and I was able to submit the report.


I pushed a little bit the research and I found on Reddit a lot of people talking about the same issue not only on Verizon (my carrier) but also on AT&T. Just use the title I typed and you will find the article.


I never had such issue with the 11pro.



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Dec 9, 2020 7:42 PM in response to c.c.chen

Yes, there are reports of the same issue with several carriers, but the problem is the same. The carriers need to change the way they configure the broadcast bands that the iPhones use. I don't understand why this didn't affect the iPhones until the 12 series came out, or why most iPhone owners aren't experiencing the problem of weak signal and complete signal loss, however.

Dec 10, 2020 6:22 AM in response to Dogcow-Moof

Good analysis. Of course we could be talking about more than one problem here, maybe something like tower directing the phone to a bad choice of channel, possible sensitivity issues for certain channels within the phone, and maybe even congestion or failed handoffs between towers. Throw that lot into the mix and I would be volunteering Someone Else to do the troubleshooting.


The reports that problems often clear by rebooting or selecting Airplane Mode for a few seconds seem consistent with band or slot selection issues, because the connection is renegotiated and it is very unlikely the tower would assign the same defective combination. I have also had direct experience of a failed sector antenna on my local tower, it got to the point where I was walking along the street, on the phone to a network engineer and able to predict to within a few metres where it would fail - with the tower only 50 metres away.

Dec 10, 2020 12:08 PM in response to Bajabettie

Yes it is what I'm thinking too. It is an issue with the Qualcomm baseband chipset and/or the baseband software stack.


I bought a 5G android phone to troubleshoot. Got an additional line with Spectrum (aka Verizon = mvno).


I've been in contact with Apple. I had the software from the support team installed. I drove around for 2 days and 150 miles. Nothing. Apple call me back and told them I cannot reproduce the issue.


Went this morning downtown to get a coffee. Went inside the store. When I got back to my car and I looked at the phone it was saying "No service". Go figure out. I looked at the Android 5G and the device did not lose service.


So nothing with the carrier otherwise the other device will have lost service too.


So software and/or chipset issue.

Dec 10, 2020 12:51 PM in response to joxesCA

I have done many things to try to fix this issue. I talked to both Verizon and Apple (3 times). I have twice reset carrier settings. (Go to Settings, General, then Reset, then Reset Carrier Settings. I also switched from 5G auto to LTE. In between I had also removed and re-put in the same SIM card. After the last reset carrier settings it seems to be doing a little better but I’ll have to see if this lasts because it was dropping nearly every call or having it where I could hear the person I was talking to but they could not hear me. This was happening at my house.

Dec 10, 2020 2:05 PM in response to ZodiacGem

I understand your frustration. I am a on call emergency heart surgery nurse and depend on my phone for hospital to get ahold of me. I have done all the recommendations tried everything they suggested and still continue to loose service. I finally got a hold of someone at apple who set up a replacement phone I am waiting to receive it and there are no problems with it. Fingers crossed

Dec 10, 2020 2:18 PM in response to JT7577

I spoke to an Apple tech support person who was extremely articulate in protecting Apple and pointing the problem back to the carrier (VZW).


It was recommended that I tell the carrier to change my plan to 4g or 3g and all would be well.


I bought a new phone, transferred my data and expected the phone to work as my previous 4 iPhones have worked.


Now I am caught between the carrier and the manufacturer with an unreliable phone.


Some of you are in far more critical need of your phone than I, such as health care and first responders.


I hope this situation doesn’t keep essential folks from life saving situations.


Why is this not being fixed?? Have you seen the number of comments? HELP!


Dec 10, 2020 2:22 PM in response to CATManRetired

CATManRetired wrote:

I spoke to an Apple tech support person who was extremely articulate in protecting Apple and pointing the problem back to the carrier (VZW).

It was recommended that I tell the carrier to change my plan to 4g or 3g and all would be well.

I bought a new phone, transferred my data and expected the phone to work as my previous 4 iPhones have worked.

Now I am caught between the carrier and the manufacturer with an unreliable phone.

Some of you are in far more critical need of your phone than I, such as health care and first responders.

I hope this situation doesn’t keep essential folks from life saving situations.

Why is this not being fixed?? Have you seen the number of comments? HELP!


Once again, no one from Apple is officially reading this forum, so you are only talking to other users here.


As I have stated, I and many, many others on AT&T without 5G on our plans are seeing no issues whatsoever, and I suspect the same is true for Verizon customers.

Dec 10, 2020 2:23 PM in response to extraordinarilysmart

extraordinarilysmart wrote:

I seriously doubt this has anything to do with the carrier, any carrier. I have changed 5 (!), yes five, different carriers in 3 different countries and the problems were the same, regardless of who was providing the service or whether it was a virtual or physical sim.


What you don't know is whether the carriers you switched between share the same towers and thus the same equipment and switching gear at the cell site.

Dec 10, 2020 2:25 PM in response to joxesCA

joxesCA wrote:

Went this morning downtown to get a coffee. Went inside the store. When I got back to my car and I looked at the phone it was saying "No service". Go figure out. I looked at the Android 5G and the device did not lose service.

So nothing with the carrier otherwise the other device will have lost service too.

So software and/or chipset issue.


Actually, that proves nothing.


Sadly, other phone vendors do not list the band capabilities of their devices that I have been able to find, so my theory that cell towers are asking iPhone 12s to switch to frequencies that are not properly configured on the tower seems most likely.

Dec 10, 2020 2:28 PM in response to joxesCA

I have the issue too with ATT and 12 pro max. I do not lose bar strength (doesn’t say zero bars for connection) and I don’t get no sim error. I just can’t browse or use apps that require data or net. Airplane mode on then off has worked as far as I can tell. I know this differs from others here but loss of service is loss of service. I’m not planning on returning the phone as I assume at some point it will resolve. If it’s not fixed within the one year warranty then maybe I have replace regardless but I can’t see it come to that or be unresolved for that long. Those that need to have their phone work 24x7, I feel for you.


Apple is not officially on these forums, so is there somewhere they have officially acknowledged the issue?



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