Wondering if Apple trade in is a scam

I just traded in a beautiful 2 year old MacBook, which was valued at $340.


The company that processes it now tells me that it had three white spots in the screen and that the new value is $160.


There weren’t white spots, and they company definitely profit by doubling their margin with an excuse like that. As a consumer, I am disappointed that I can’t do this in front of a person in an apple store and that I need to let a shady third party give a take it or leave it without any proof. I think it’s not good enough for an admired company like Apple.

Posted on Nov 7, 2020 1:30 PM

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Posted on Jan 20, 2021 7:12 AM

I read this thread when pondering how to manage my trade in of 2017 MacBook for new MacBook Pro. I did not want to take the chances of what has been reported here, & finally decided & handled it this way: I decided to push for & finally received a Genius Bar appointment to take in my MacBook. I had to spend quite a bit of time on the phone with Apple Support, going up to the 4th level, but it paid off. I was finally able to convince the 4th level tech person to call & intercede for me with the Apple Store (closed due to Covid, with limited access for on-line pick up of purchases & drop off for repair). She was able to get an appointment scheduled for me, which allowed me to get in front of an Apple person. Keep in mind: I had an inordinate amount of problems with my MacBook, and Apple has a long record of it. It had just been repaired from a mother board failure & I decided that I just needed to let it go & get a new one with the M1 chip. So, it was working perfectly at the moment & I was actually able to get the maximum value for it, which allowed me to move forward. I told several people along the way of why I was so insistent on having an Apple person assess my MacBook in person. Most had no idea that Apple was using a 3rd party company. I don't know if this would work for anyone else, but I was relieved to be able to do it in this way. I wish all of you luck, & be persistent.

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Dec 20, 2020 5:18 AM in response to joetroy

Wow same thing just happened to me!! Same excuse and everything. Same exact wording about the “three white spots.” I also checked my laptop before sending it and there was no issue with the screen at all, so I have no idea what they are talking about. I just spent thousands on a new MacBook for school. The least they could do is give me my measly $340. Ridiculous. I think I’m going to reject their offer. Just hope my laptop doesn’t come back with some defect that it never had to begin with.

Feb 17, 2021 12:50 PM in response to DennisWSanDiego

Exactly what's happening with my situation...

Did the trade-in program - purchased a new MacBook Pro with the belief that we would be receiving $690 for my perfectly good 2016 MacBook Pro - no screen issues when it left my house whatsoever - and I'm a graphic designer, so I would notice if there were any abnormalities in my screen. The trade-in program gets back to us a week later with notes saying that we gave them the wrong model information - which is impossible, and that there are "3 or more white spots". Bringing the trade-in value down to $220! That's $470 less than what we were initially told - a whole different price ballgame.


The trade-in program is definitely a scam, and I think we all need to make a stink about it. They're ripping us off.

And like many people here, I'm a loyal Apple customer - for literally 30 years!

Mar 13, 2021 3:43 PM in response to K Shaffer

This is a discussion thread where lots of people are sharing their experience with the Apple trade-in program. The question posed by the thread is: is it a scam? In my experience, and plenty of others here, the answer is yes.


you pop up with your level 7 acting like Apple is somehow unaware


its not self-immolating to helpfully let you know that I’ve already submitted explicit feedback, and it’s not revealing my hand to guess others have as well.


apple is knowingly engaging in a trade-in process that incentivizes third-party companies to maximize their profit by adjusting the value of the trade-in as originally quoted by Apple. It is deceptive and Apple knows it is deceptive, they were more than happy to read the fine print back to me.


The Cure, as long as Apple does not want to help their customers, is to help prevent people from falling into the trap.

Mar 26, 2021 2:10 PM in response to kawikasurf

Well, I actually spoke to an Apple representative (for some other question I had) and when I brought this up as well they were very surprised and told me to submit a complaint about this. I suggest that, to make them aware of this lousy trade in experience we are ALL having, we all file a complaint and hopefully (hopefully) the more people complain, they will finally do something about it. (what they don't know, they won't change so not saying anything will definitely not help).

Jan 26, 2021 9:20 AM in response to LSA007

same exact thing happened to me. spots on my screen that were not there were the reason for a 70% discount on my trade-in value. also, they hold it long enough so that you miss the ridiculous 14 day return window so i cannot return the new apple macbook pro purchased to replace it. now i'm stuck with two working macbook pro's which are essentially identical. Apple should be ashamed and has lost a customer.

Feb 16, 2021 9:53 AM in response to LSA007

I just received the exact same response from the trade in department that there are 3 white dots on the display of my daughters MacBook. I even took pictures of the screen before sending it in and there were no white dots. As a stock holder and customer this is extremely disturbing to read that this exact thing is happening with so many customers.

Feb 26, 2021 2:13 PM in response to LSA007

i had an iphone 6+ that i was perfectly happy with, but succumbed to new phone fever. They start off with a lead in that says up to $200 trade, but l wonder what that would be for. My 6+ was valued at $50. Okay it was an old phone. I just got a message that the camera was not working. It was working fine when I shipped it. I had them send it back. I'm sure I can do something better with it than let them throw it away.

I am trying to find a way to post this or a similar review somewhere other than this user forum. Not all Apple users use these forum and i feel the phone(y) trade in program deserves a more wide spread audience.

Feb 27, 2021 2:16 AM in response to crb5241

Exactly. The point is that it is beneath apple. Apple is a very admired company and us, followers, accept quite steep price and for them to make a killing with their margins.


So they should have better control of the companies they keep — this outsourcing to an external company that makes profit with those dubious trade ins. For sure apple should take all these trade ins and then go back to the third parties with the power of their scale (not 1 trade in, but 10,000), and we’d all still win without Apple’s reputation being defaced like now.


Mar 13, 2021 1:44 PM in response to K Shaffer

level 7 K Shaffer thinks all the people in the lengthy thread didn’t first go to Apple with the evidence of the scam. I left feedback. I was on the phone for several hours with all levels of Apple employees, and my guess is that most people in the thread were as well. I can say with absolute confidence that Apple is AWARE of how fraudulent the trade-in process feels to their customers and they DO NOT CARE.

Mar 23, 2021 9:54 AM in response to LSA007

Me, too - nearly the same scenario. They offered $390 and then told me it has white spots - which I have never seen - and "revised" the offer to $140. Like I'm going to give them nearly new, $1,700 computer for $140. And what does it say about Apple if they can't make a product that will last a couple of years without having "white spots" (whatever that means)? No thanks - I'll use it as a back-up or donate it rather than let some scam artist rip me off. Really bad look for Apple.


Mar 23, 2021 10:14 AM in response to LSA007

FURIOUS! Same exact thing just happened to us. Great condition, we take great care of our devices. This was a MacBook Pro i5. quoted $590 trade in value and then offered $250 which revised again to $210. with NO explanation why, except "3 white spots". -- we did not have spots or steaks on screen BTW. Both Apple and Phobio were confused as to why there were no photos associated with my evaluation... one Phobia employee finally was able to "obtain a picture" and emailed it to me. IT WAS NOT MY DEVICE, the quality of the photo was so poor, looked like a ton of dust specks were all over screen and the lights from the office building were reflecting harshly in it... he pointed out to me "3 white streaks on the screen (and button rubbings) that were "normal wear and tear" and nothing to worry about that is what happens to all devices." WHAT? so that equates a drop from $590 to $210? Makes NO SENSE at all.. I do not trust their evaluation, their production of the photo, or their handling of anything. Apple won't step up and back their product, their process or the fact that all of these people are having the same problem? After a couple weeks on the phone back and forth to Apple, who claims they can not do anything because Phobio is in charge of all of this, and Phobio claims that apple sets the protocols they just follow them, I accidentally hit the accept button while toggling between screens on my iPhone to get them information. Phobio told me in no way could I reverse that and if Apple told me I could (because they did), they misspoke / misinformed me. I am so disappointed in Apple.


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