Mail search not working after Big Sur install

I am unable to get mail search function to work after Big Sur install. After reading some other previous email search content, I closed mail completely, opened with shift+Mail, closed and rebooted and same problem occurring.

iMac, macOS 10.12

Posted on Nov 13, 2020 11:40 AM

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Posted on Mar 10, 2021 9:22 AM

I found out something today, I am not sure if this changed with Big Sur but I strongly suspect it may have something to do with it.


Problem:

When you search, it only now seems to search whatever mailbox is selected in the left hand panel. This is usually "All inboxes". This seems to ONLY search mail in the inboxes (as it says!). I have several accounts and I have been searching in "All inboxes" for ever and it always used to (before Big Sur) find mail wherever it was. Whether it searches folders in imap accounts, I haven't proved yet. However, it does not seem to search mailboxes "On My Mac" - mail downloaded, via imap or pop, and then moved from the inbox, by rules or manually, to a mailbox on the hard drive. This, of course, is where most of my saved emails reside so they are never found!


Solution:

Luckily, smart mailboxes seem to ignore location unless specified. We need to refer to the predefined smart mailbox All unread which uses the rule "message is unread". (There is no rule for "message is read"!)


I created a smart mailbox called All mailboxes using rule "not in mailbox All Unread" which correctly selected all read messages, from anywhere! Thousands of emails appeared! When this mailbox is selected my searches work fine! You may have to wait several minutes each time you select All mailboxes for the Mail program to refresh the total at the top. Mine took about two minutes to find 29k!


VIPs

VIPs are the same but cannot be fixed by humble users as far as I can see. Apple, you need to fix this!! Mail will only show a VIP's mail if it is in an inbox and has not been moved to another mailbox!! This is not how it used to work and it is now useless.


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Nov 18, 2020 7:13 AM in response to JohnDoe0007

In the previous iteration of macOS, when you started searching it defaulted to the current folder, but there was a button you could click somewhere near the top (can't recall where, and all of my computers have now been updated to Big Sur) that would allow you to toggle exactly which folder or folders you were searching.


I don't see how you can "not select a folder" to easily facilitate a search of all folders. Each time I launch Mail there is always a folder selected (I think the last folder I had selected when I last closed Mail).

Nov 22, 2020 8:39 AM in response to JohnDoe0007

How do we Mail Users get notified by Apple that they have recognised and taken ownership of the bug (bug id .....?), and an indication by when a fix can be expected. ?


This discussion could go on forever if they're is no official "Apple Support "bug recognition and advice".


And save our time wasted by all of us in the Apple user crowd trying various solutions which are not working satisfactorily and never will without a fix,



Dec 3, 2020 4:54 AM in response to Gregg Radell

@Gregg Radell


Exactly! I have my email super organized, with lots of folders between accounts. It's essential in order to keep my work organized. And so, I use the search function very regularly because I don't always recall which folder might contain what I'm looking for. And I agree, I don't want to begin using a 3rd party application. I've tried several and I've yet to find one that accomplished Mail's simple interface, ease of use, etc.

Dec 16, 2020 8:47 AM in response to JohnDoe0007

I took the 11.1 Upgrade last night. It does not appear to have completely resolved the issue if at all. Searching seemed lightning fast this morning but by mid day it is back to not finding things that I know are there. Just hangs on "searching" and produces no results. This problem is very frustrating.


The update did seem to solve the issue of the finder insisting on opening new windows and changing its focus every-time you returned to it via the dock icon.

Dec 18, 2020 4:04 PM in response to NevadaDan

NevadaDan,


Has the issue fully resolved for you? I tried re-installing OSX and it worked for a few days but the issue returned... I think after a reboot. So far I've received initial results from re-installing OS X, rebuilding mail indexes and logging out of my user account, followed by logging back in. I didn't have positive results from rebuilding my mailboxes nor the close-ShiftClickOpen-close-ShiftClickOpen-reboot suggestion. I tried rebuilding my mail indexes but it crashed after 3 hours so I just restored my old indexes.


If your reinstalling OSX fix has fully resolved the issue (surviving reboots and time), perhaps it was the combination of some of the things you've done rather than just that one thing. If so, I may try doing what you did sequentially.


Dec 18, 2020 4:24 PM in response to Gregg Radell

Gregg,


Ditto... I initially was encouraged from the 11.1 update but the problem returned. I then took many of the steps throughout this post and have not yet found a fix that fully resolves it. NevadaDan indicated that reinstalling OSX worked for him but it only worked for me for a short while.... he had tried a number of other steps preceding that, so I'm wondering if he's still finding that the issue is fully resolved. If so, perhaps it was the combination of those steps rather than the final.

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