Headphone Safety

Yes we know. I am just telling you where we are, don’t have a go at me, tell Apple

Feedback to Apple

https://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html

If 14.3 is still not on the dropdown no need to select it

Sorry if I was a bit quick to get tetchy peter_watt! TBH I think I was drunk when I wrote that, and this whole headphone thing has really annoyed me. There are too many Apple apologists excusing literally everything they do, and I think I erroneously lumped you in with them. Apologies!

peter_watt wrote:

Accepted! 👍

I am fairly alone amongst the regulars in saying I think this is a monumental error by the developers.

I suggest one minor correction, based on 50 years experience working with large corporations. Developers make no decisions; they just do what they are told. So it was someone higher up that made this decision. Perhaps in User Experience, perhaps in Legal; probably not in Marketing 😏 Most likely by a committee of a bunch of department heads. My vote for the driving force was Legal. And also, most likely the developers argued against it - and lost.

Yes that is a valid correction, I meant Developers with a capital “D” , the policy makers in charge of general software development.

As an ex developer myself I only ever coded what was was on the change request!

So, is this it?

Thank you for your guidance Mr_Watt.

I am done with Apple products now, I’m looking at aptX audio which will give me the best quality audio. iPhones don't support it, they use AAC which, amongst other things distorts more at higher volume.

I am beyond upset with Apple! What gives them the right to shut my sound down because I exceeded their recommended decibel limits? I don’t even use headphones only Bluetooth. This is wrong and you need to be called out for this apparent need to control us. I am going back next week to get rid of my 12promax and look at other options.. YOU APPLE, HAVE EXCEEDED THE BOUNDARIES!

“..:Freedom is not controlled ...”

Not sure why you direct this at at me. I don’t work for Apple

All along I have said that this is a monumental mistake by Apple. They hit the ball right into the rough.

Using the Feedback site and buying another brand are your only means of protest outside social media.

Note if you have iPad these limits are not there as there is no health app.

I'm deaf from birth and so I am forced to use the maximum volume to listen to my favorite music with iPhone! Hope the high authorities of Apple (you all contact with email) remove the forced volume turned down in the iOS, I don't accept it, this discriminate all people with hearing problem.  

serenitynow2 wrote:

They have no right to decide how I choose to treat my body. If you want to give up your rights that’s your right but I’m willing to fight for mine.

But Apple does have the right to determine how their products work and to limit their liability.

Without stating the obvious, that is correct they do infringe upon our rights to decide how we treat our bodies. You mention drugs as an example of how regulations curb our use and overuse, however countries are opening up to the reality that laws only cause more problems. Opioids for an example are becoming less restricted due to the fact that people are less likely to confront their issues with them and hide them. It’s a sad day when people become sheep. Be a sheep. That’s your right.

serenitynow2 wrote:

Opioids for an example are becoming less restricted due to the fact that people are less likely to confront their issues with them and hide them.

In what country do you live that laws on opioid prescriptions are becoming more relaxed?

Even if that were true, it wouldn't mean that a pharmaceutical company would be required to sell opioids just because you wanted to buy them. They might chose not to because of potential liability issues. In the U.S., companies are being sued over how they marketed opioids.

I can no longer continue with this conversation as I don’t believe what you believe. I have to go to work now and unfortunately I have to listen to my music the way somebody else is forcing me to listen to it which considering my situation is almost too low for me to hear. Enjoy your life being mothered because you apparently can’t control your own life. Give me a helpful warning, don’t take my freedom of choice. Take care.

I'm not stating beliefs. I'm stating facts. I understand you believe that you should be able to listen to music at any volume you want. And, I have no problem with that. I also have no problem with Apple exercising its rights to manufacture products the way it wants. And you have the right not to buy them. It's called "capitalism" where I come from.

You’re arguing my argument for me and I appreciate that. I want you to consider alcohol as an example let’s get away from prescription drugs let’s go with what’s legal. Should A consumer be able to purchase a keg of beer? I mean we know with that much alcohol can do to one person so why shouldn’t there be limits to how much alcohol the person can purchase that’s deemed dangerous to an individual.? should that be regulated the same way? Obesity, cigarettes, miles driven related to CO2 levels, etc. Its no longer a choice of Apple when it’s dictated to them on their rights as a creator and manufacturer. Capitalism is lost when there’s no alternative choice.

You can buy or not buy whatever a manufacturer wants to sell. You do not, however, have the right to dictate what they chose to make.

If you don't like the laws in your country, vote in different people.