Enable TRIM on SSD's ?

Hello.


When replacing a mechanical drive with a SSD, should one find out if the SSD supports trim before enabling trim?


The reason I ask, is because a few months ago, I cloned a Macbook's mechanical drive to an ssd, and it booted and ran fine until I enabled trim. Once trim was enabled, I got the dreaded question mark error upon reboot. I had to repeat the clone without enabling trim. I wish I could remember what the SSD's manufacturer was.


I found this on Crucial's site:


"Trim and Active Garbage Collection are useful tools that can benefit the speed, function, and longevity of your SSD. But if your operating system doesn't support Trim, it's not a disaster. All Crucial SSDs are designed and tested assuming that they will be used without Trim".


I found this comment from 2 years ago on another forum:


"For a recent third-party SSD/Flash memory drive, read very carefully whether the storage device vendor recommends, or discourages enabling external TRIM support on their drive. Many are now incorporating TRIM functionality into their drive controllers and enabling external TRIM may offer no advantage at all, and may actually harm the drive".

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Posted on Nov 15, 2020 7:46 AM

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Nov 15, 2020 8:07 AM in response to Cyberlicious

Cyberlicious wrote:

Hello.

When replacing a mechanical drive with a SSD, should one find out if the SSD supports trim before enabling trim?

The reason I ask, is because a few months ago, I cloned a Macbook's mechanical drive to an ssd, and it booted and ran fine until I enabled trim. Once trim was enabled, I got the dreaded question mark error upon reboot. I had to repeat the clone without enabling trim. I wish I could remember what the SSD's manufacturer was.

I found this on Crucial's site:

"Trim and Active Garbage Collection are useful tools that can benefit the speed, function, and longevity of your SSD. But if your operating system doesn't support Trim, it's not a disaster. All Crucial SSDs are designed and tested assuming that they will be used without Trim".

I found this comment from 2 years ago on another forum:

"For a recent third-party SSD/Flash memory drive, read very carefully whether the storage device vendor recommends, or discourages enabling external TRIM support on their drive. Many are now incorporating TRIM functionality into their drive controllers and enabling external TRIM may offer no advantage at all, and may actually harm the drive".



You will have to do your own research and come to your own conclusion.


TRIM is typicall advised.


If you had an issue with Crucial—contact their support.



What you do not want to do is switch TRIM on and then off in indecision— this can lead to data corruption.


I have never had an issue enabling TRIM on third party SSD, even when the manufactor states it is not needed with there controller.

Nov 15, 2020 8:41 AM in response to leroydouglas

Thanks for the reply.


In the last couple years, I've installed about 30 or 40 SSD's in Macbooks and i-Macs, and always enable trim. It was just that one time in which it seemingly caused the boot issue. That boot issue, along with the comment of TRIM possibly damaging the drive, had me a little concerned. However, I suspect I'm being paranoid, and will continue to enable TRIM.



Nov 15, 2020 8:43 AM in response to Cyberlicious

Cyberlicious wrote:

Thanks for the reply.

In the last couple years, I've installed about 30 or 40 SSD's in Macbooks and i-Macs, and always enable trim. It was just that one time in which it seemingly caused the boot issue. That boot issue, along with the comment of TRIM possibly damaging the drive, had me a little concerned. However, I suspect I'm being paranoid, and will continue to enable TRIM.




Good computing Cyberlicious !

Nov 15, 2020 10:06 AM in response to leroydouglas

Ok. I'll stick to enabling it.


One last question.


I've installed about 30 SSD's into i-Macs. For the type with the magnetic screen protector, I do not remove the whole screen. Those fragile and thin mobo / screen connectors look far too precarious for me. Forums are filled with that standard procedure going terribly wrong, and I'm not going to take on that liability. What I've been doing for those SSD replacements, is to lift the screen just enough to only remove the vertical sync connector. I then use a stubby screwdriver to remove the hard drive, and mount the SSD using velcro strips. I find this to be a much easier and much safer procedure.


For the i-Macs with the glued in screens? There is no way in the world I'm going to attempt to install an SSD in those. There's only one other computer tech in my city that also works on Macs, and he doesn't remove those screens either. Long story short, I explain the issue to my customer, and they're all good with mounting the SSD on the outside back of the i-mac via a USB 3 connection. I've done about 15 of those, and they're surprisingly fast. I've recently thought about using 3 or 3.1 USB sticks to do this, as they're about the same price as a 2.5" form factor SSD and would look cleaner. Any comments on that?



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