Big Sur 11.1 External Display Issues!

I've installed macOS Big Sur 11.1 right after it launched today. My mistake lol


Unfortunately, I noticed my Type-C ports no longer recognize my two external monitors. I'm using HDMI to Type-C. So far my troubleshooting is as follows:

  1. PRAM reset. This seemed to help until I locked the display. Once unlocked via Touch ID, the True Tone went off and one of the two monitors went out and will no longer connect. Woot. Normally, when connecting an external display, the screen goes black then back on, however, the screen short-of lags and then doesn't ever detect an active connection.
  2. SMC reset. This actually didn't help at all... :(
  3. Fresh install, same issues.


Any suggestions?

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Posted on Dec 14, 2020 3:44 PM

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Posted on Feb 16, 2021 4:54 AM

Same problem. Just installed 11.2.1 - No Joy.


I'm running a Macbook Pro 2016 - 2019

32GB ram 4TB.

I'm connected to a J5Create JCD543. Via USB-C

2 DELL SE 2719HR displays.


Also tested on a 2019 Macbook Air. - No joy


Prior to Big Sur, my set up was solid.




Work Arounds: As of Feb 16 2021


Option 1: j5Create just launched a driver. But...well... as of now, it's not useable. It works. Kind of... but it's DJTVirtualDisplayAgent and some other USB virtual software that needs to be approved by security. It enables the second display, but with a 1 or 2 second screen lag. So any interaction with items on that display are slow. Like using Virtual PC in the 1990's. Maybe they will improve this.


Option 2: Use 2 USB-C ports. So, one cable goes into the j5Create hub and the second goes into an HDMI to USB-C adapter. Not the end of the world, but does require an extra USB-C port. results in normal use of 2 displays.


Option 3: I tried other hubs (prices may have changed since posting this.)

USB-3 Hub 123.99

https://amzn.to/3jV4aYp (both displays worked, but requires a special USB-C dual port cable) - returned


Portable USB-C hub pro $59

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0855GZ7PT (both displays worked, but also requires 2 ports, plus, it's a short cable, all cables must be visible on the table. I'm sure you know what I mean.. messy. - returned


Docking Station OKX $149

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08HLXLW1Q (Yes, best choice so far. only requires 1 cable and has lots of ports. BUT It does require a driver.

https://www.displaylink.com/downloads


It's still a hack. requires you to be logged into the user account that you have installed the software. So, that means 1 display will be active while rebooting, up until you actually log in, then after about 15 seconds, it launches the second display. No lag, it works well as a work around. This one I'm keeping.


Oh, to save you time, I tried installing this displaylink software to use with other hubs. No dice, it looks for it's own hardware. sorry... (as of the time of this posting. Maybe that will change)



Summary:

I kept the OKX docking with displaylink for my home office. It's nice and clean, with the hub hidden and a 1 simple cable into my USB-C port (also provides power). Nice... but cluncky when rebooting. Must wait for software to load.


At work, I kept the j5Create. 1 USB-C cable from the hub, and all my devices are neatly tucked away. Requires a second HDMI-USBC cable to power 2 monitors, and takes 2 ports. Hopefully Apple will figure out the conflicting software or someone will find a terminal hack to help us all out.


Ethan-

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Mar 1, 2021 9:52 AM in response to Nova-A

Here's my temporary workaround for the external display issue that no one wants to hear (and what I just have to do until Apple gets their S#%T together).


  1. Get all my displays working. For me if the computer is asleep this involves: waking computer, then unplugging/replugging my 2 external displays (fun!) to get them recognized. Then arranging them the way I want in Settings>Displays>Arrangement.
  2. Go to Settings > Energy Saver. Slide the display-off slider to "Never" (How's that for saving energy Apple?)
  3. Also check "Prevent Computer from sleeping automatically when the display is off"
  4. When I'm done with my Mac for the day, I manually off the displays with their own power buttons (or don't, that's just to save energy like Apple should be doing)
  5. Next time I need to use my Mac, I manually turn displays back on. They should be connected and arranged properly bc the Mac never went to sleep.
  6. Fight for world peace and happiness.


Anyhow, that's what I'm doing right now as a dumb workaround. Hopefully ol' Timmy C and Apple hears the fury and fixes this issue fast. 🤙

Mar 22, 2021 12:55 PM in response to iTimC21

I have the LG HDR 4K monitor and after upgrading to 11.2.3 I lost the hires settings.

I fixed it with insight from one of the replies that said to drop from DisplayPort 11.4 to 11.2.

In my monitors settings, I disabled DisplayPort 11.2. There were no other versions listed. I am connected via USB-C.

Disabling the DisplayPort fixed the issue and all resolutions are available in System Preferences.

Apr 10, 2021 1:46 AM in response to valeriotech

Hi everyone, so, with all due respect to previous posters, I wanted to try and refocus the conversation. Rather than slagging off apple or posting negative comments, let's try and make sure apple see this thread and understand the issues at hand.


The post is about the issues caused by the update to Big Sur 11.1 and the way it broke display connections that previous worked correctly.


For example, my issues are:


I have a 20" Apple Cinema Display LCD, connected to a MacBook Pro (4 thunderbolt 3 ports). It is connected with a Comsol brand USB C - DVI adaptor. I have a second identical display at another location, connected with a genuine apple USB C - DVI adaptor.


  • Prior to the update, my display worked fine.


  • Post update, if my laptop goes to sleep, when I wake it up my display flashes on and off like a strobe light, but only ONCE you log in.. if you leave the MacBook sat at the log in screen, the external display runs fine. Once you log in, you have to restart the laptop to get the external display to function correctly.


  • Prior to the update I was able to control the sleep/wake of the laptop using the power button on the monitor. Post update, nothing.


  • The MacBook Pro does not recognise the full functionality of the display under its settings.


Installing SwitchRES X has given me back recognition of the display as a Apple Cinema Display and a full range of resolutions, including recommended, experimental and above the reported resolution of the display, all of which work. I still have the flashing issue.


Lots of other users have similar problems. The issues seem universal and do not only apply to M1 machines. It appears any MacBook capable of running Big Sur 11.1 has the same issues. I have not seen a single MacBook Pro with USB C Thunderbolt 3 etc ports that is not effected.


it is CLEARLY a software issue, as on MacBooks that have the display issues with Big Sur, the display is recognised and works perfectly with bootcamp or Virtual Machines. If you downgrade to a previous OS the display works perfectly.


While my displays are old, they are still excellent screens. other people are in the same situation. The have excellent displays that cost hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars and now are, effectively, useless.


Many people have displays that do not have HDMI, USB or USB-C ports that can have their internal firmware adjusted to run on older/slower protocols.


Apple needs to either fix the problem or revert back to the display drivers and software that was used in Big Sur 11.0


If you are going to post your issue, please list the hardware you are using, ie the type of display, the adaptor and the connection. and what you have done to try and fix the problem.



Apr 11, 2021 1:00 PM in response to iTimC21

Hi, I hope this solution finds you well. I just experienced this issue. I’m sure you’ve found a solution nearly a year later. I found my solution in it being having to purchase Apple’s $39 type c usb cable. Meaning the type c usb cable from my ASUS ZenScreen no longer worked after the update to Big Sur. Despite updating all of the drivers for my ASUS monitor. Prior to the update to Big Sur, my ASUS monitor worked without any issues. Thanks apple. You’re like the printer industry now.

Apr 18, 2021 3:30 PM in response to a3w275

I didn't have your issues as I said a while back--but I fixed the issue I had (for now) of non-HDMI port recognition of external display--by resetting the SMC--a tip from MacRumors discussion. I thought I had tried this before but gave it another shot. Shut down the Mac, pushed the start button for 10 seconds (I think it chimes) keep it pressed down, then release, then press to start. I left the tv connected to the HDMI on throughout for this try. When the Mac Mini restarted it now recognized my third display.


When I tested by doing a simple restart the recognition held.


So maybe resetting your SMC will fix the issues you are having too.

May 7, 2021 4:24 AM in response to virgincinboy

I'm now in Big Sur 11.3.1 and I'm still having the same problem with my external display (Dell U2715h, 2560x1440, 60 Hz) and my 2017 27" iMac 5K.


The display is connected to the iMac with a USB C to DisplayPort cable and it only works if the display is powered on before I start the computer. If I switch off the display while the computer is running, when I try to switch it on again the display doesn't shown any image. I could see that it's recognized by macOS in System Preferences, but for some reason the display doesn't detect any video signal.


I can get signal again in the external display only if I restart the computer with the display powered on.


Reseting pram, SMC or using different lower resolutions (1080p) didn't work for me.


Never had this problem before with the same display on different older operating systems. I've been using it since macOS 10.12.4 to all Mojave versions in the same computer and I could switch on and switch off the display with the computer running without problems.

Aug 12, 2021 3:13 PM in response to Richard London

I downloaded the driver for the J5Create Adapter, and until I updated to 11.5.2 the Adapter status window kept telling me it saw my monitor, but there was some kind of "space" issue with a code I have never seen before. When I did the update, it then told me it saw the monitor and it should work - but it didn't, until I unplugged the adapter again, replugged it all in, then it showed me the mirrored monitor, and only after I did ONE MORE restart did the Displays status show the monitor and the Gather Windows button, and get it to work properly as an extension and NOT mirror. Now it is working as it was before I did the Big Sur update, maybe a little faster, which is probably the new J5Create adapter...

Good luck!

Sep 27, 2021 8:07 AM in response to iTimC21

This issue has only impacted me since 11.6. It was fine on 11.5.


5K iMac 27" connected via USB-C to a 49" LG 5120 x 1440 display.


After 11.6 update the LG monitor only supports 1920 x 1080 in the middle of the screen.


Spoke with Apple support and tried:


SMC reset - no change

PRAM reset - no change

Deleting 2 plist files in the Library - no change


Altering the monitor USB-C version from 1.4 to 1.1 has solved the issue


I hope that helps anyone else with this problem.

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