Cardio Fitness doesn't have Apple Watch as a data source

I update my iphone and apple watch yesterday. But the cardio fitness says no data. When I checked I noticed that it does not have any datasources. My Apple Watch was not added automatically. I cannot find a way to add it manually as well. What can be done?

I thought of unpairing and pairing again. But then it will not have my previous data right?

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Posted on Dec 16, 2020 4:46 AM

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Posted on Dec 20, 2020 7:33 AM

Ok, my i s working now. What I did...

I've started my training "Walk outside" outside with my iPhone (iPhone 11 pro with 14.3 iOS) with me. Walked only about 1 km (9 minutes) and after ending this trening, cardio fitness on Health App on my iPhone is visible.

I hope this will work for you as well.

Cheers

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Jan 6, 2021 11:15 AM in response to sgmerley

Due to an injury and subsequent surgery I do in fact have to get most of my workouts indoors right now. My walks are abbreviated for the time being. I’m sure there are many others who, for any number of reasons, are not getting their exercise from an outdoor walk or run. This should be obvious. I wonder how an indoor treadmill workout is recorded.

Jan 6, 2021 11:23 AM in response to PQC

I am sorry for your injury but in reality cardio fitness is just an unreliable estimate which may be interesting but certainly not required in any sense that I understand. You will have access to so many other health metrics that not having Cardio fitness data is just not that big a deal. If for some reason you really feel you need this estimate you can always buy a relatively cheap Polar heart strap and use their fitness test to get the same information

Jan 15, 2021 3:33 AM in response to Azterix1984

Generally speaking this issue appears to impact new Apple Watch 6 users who bought their watch after the latest update. People who used the watch before then understand that cardio fitness/VO2 Max does not necessarily show up immediately. These new users may also not be aware that there has been a change in the algorithm used to calculate the data. Part of the confusion may stem from the fact that the older algorithm required a certain intense activity whereas the new one just requires that you move around. Hence, it may have been easy to understand with the older algorithm that something more was required than just putting on the watch.

Anyway, let us know if it show up soon. If not, there may be other things that need to be checked.

Jan 15, 2021 3:52 PM in response to rolf228

Indoors versus outdoors is not the point but rather not being required to “exercise” is. Their statement is talking about “walking throughout the day.” I think it’s pretty clear that the meaning of “walking” would mean outside since most people don’t walk all that much inside. In any event, they clearly say that no high intensity exercise is required anymore..

Jan 15, 2021 4:25 PM in response to rolf228

Actually the link doesn't say anything about "run all day" it says "walk throughout the day":


"With watchOS 7, Apple Watch uses multiple sensors to estimate an expanded range of cardio fitness as users walk throughout the day, whether or not they are tracking a workout."


But anyway, nobody was claiming that you get cardio fitness measurements from indoor activity. What was being claimed is that you need to do "workouts" of a certain intensity which contradicts what Apple is saying



Jan 22, 2021 8:21 AM in response to Azterix1984

First of all I really have to laugh when you complain about spending "over $600" on a device. I bought my first computer in 1985 for about $5000 which according to inflation calculators is about $13, 000 today. Looking at it that way, Apple is almost giving away computers. One of the many many ways they have brought down the cost is by not printing the giant manuals that used to come with computers and software and which nobody read anyway (I did :-) Today's computers and software are so simple that there really is very little need for such documentation and almost anything you do need can be found online. True, apple didn't put out something specifically on this aspect of the feature but is that really so surprising given the zillions of features that are documented?. Also, most people who have had Apple watches before understood that it takes time for VO2max readings to show up so this is an issue that impacts mostly new users.


I don't think Apple is a perfect company but its products are so far superior to the competition that I find it a bit much to excoriate them for this one thing no matter how much you are annoyed by it. As I said, if you had read the forum, I pointed out this time delay many times and that is what such forms are forums are for (free by the way).


((By the way I should add that my 1985 computer had a 20 MB hard drive and as I recall something like 600 kB of RAM. So for 5% of the real cost of a 1985 computer you are getting a super computer on your wrist that nobody could dream about 35 years ago.)

Jan 28, 2021 9:09 AM in response to PQC

Apple has specifically said that you don't need to track any kind of workout in order to get readings and that they should come by just walking throughout the day. I seem to remember that my first one showed up without any kind of work out tracked. In any event, I assume they are relying on pace for the calculation and how would they get that indoors?

Jan 28, 2021 11:11 AM in response to PQC

Have a watch 6 and 12 pro phone each with the updates that came out this past week. Today on the watch Workouts I did an outdoor walk for over two miles and watch is still not showing as a data source under Cardio Fitness & Cardio Fitness Notifications in the Health App. I went way beyond the 20 minutes that someone in this thread suggested as a possible fix to get the watch to be recognized. Is this a glitch or are we all missing some hidden setting?

Jan 29, 2021 2:25 PM in response to Peroneal

So in this continuing saga of certain heart fitness / notifications / etc not showing up in the Health App it makes some sense that for certain of the fields the watch / health app needs time to compile a sort of profile or base line before populating the various fields. What makes absolutely no sense is the app not recognizing the watch as the source. Has Apple jumped in anywhere in this thread to help clear up the mystery?

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